24 Hour Nazi Party People
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greg334
Veteran Expediter
Is there something wrong here?
Leo I think you need a rest.
The prison system, as much as I don't have any sympathy for those who live there, is setup in such a way that it protects not just the citizens from bad people but also the entire system we live under. IF we have a meltdown with people running around killing others because of their crimes, many of them without direct victims, then we will have given up the system we live under. The thing about prison escaping seems not to be harsh but over the top. The same goes for the idea that a civil servant at any level is more important than a citizen, they are not.
I think harsh isn't where you are going with this, so maybe a few weeks off the road would help.
Leo I think you need a rest.
The prison system, as much as I don't have any sympathy for those who live there, is setup in such a way that it protects not just the citizens from bad people but also the entire system we live under. IF we have a meltdown with people running around killing others because of their crimes, many of them without direct victims, then we will have given up the system we live under. The thing about prison escaping seems not to be harsh but over the top. The same goes for the idea that a civil servant at any level is more important than a citizen, they are not.
I think harsh isn't where you are going with this, so maybe a few weeks off the road would help.
Is there something wrong here?
Leo I think you need a rest.
The prison system, as much as I don't have any sympathy for those who live there, is setup in such a way that it protects not just the citizens from bad people but also the entire system we live under. IF we have a meltdown with people running around killing others because of their crimes, many of them without direct victims, then we will have given up the system we live under. The thing about prison escaping seems not to be harsh but over the top. The same goes for the idea that a civil servant at any level is more important than a citizen, they are not.
I think harsh isn't where you are going with this, so maybe a few weeks off the road would help.
A few duck, deer and fishing seasons off the road would go a long way for me!!
witness23
Veteran Expediter
ahhhh....the sweet smell of anonymity of the internet world and forums, where social filters do not exist and someone can make outlandish statements without any consequences, actually there could be consequences if people did their job, but I digress. The sad thing is, if I were ever to meet LDB, I would probably think he was an alright guy, because I'm sure these social filters would be turned on(I hope). One can only imaging the demons you must have bottled up inside......
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Leo is a fine man and friend. My wife and I always enjoy meeting up with him and his father. He is just fed up, as am I, with criminals being excused for this or that. It is just time to hold everyone totally responsible for their own actions.
witness23
Veteran Expediter
That actually explains a lot to me, thanks.
Figured it would. I TOO believe that it is time that EVERYONE is held 100% responsible for their own actions. No more excuses. Poverty does NOT cause crime. Addiction to illegal drugs is a CHOICE. Charity should be a GIFT not FORCED at the point of a gun as it is now. Government is the servant, NOT the master. ONLY God has power over man. Man was meant to live free, not controlled by an evil elite.
Brisco
Expert Expediter
And I'd like to add DRIVING WHILE INTOXICATED in along with this.
No arrest, no jail time, no seeing the judge. Cop pulls over weaving 3-6,000 lb vehicle/weapon. Suspects intoxication, mandatory Breath Test right then and there, blow is above legal limit, execution on the spot.
I'd rather call the coroners office for a body pickup right then than I would for a body pickup some 2-4-6 miles down the road when that drunk driver runs over and kills an innocent victim.
And NO......no apologies will be brought forth with concerns to my thoughts/opinions, so quit demanding them if you get offended.
(seems to be the pattern with a couple of sensitive posters around here)
I appreciate such concern for my well being, which is completely well. As stated, it's time for accountability and consequences to be shifted back to responsible parties rather than innocent individuals. At the same time make the consequences harsh enough to deter almost everyone from committing the crime in the future. No need for a rest, just some common sense.
greg334
Veteran Expediter
Common sense would dictate not taking drastic and irreversible actions based on emotion.
Common sense would dictate that we have to maintain our system of law under all circumstances not because we are a nation of men (and women) but a nation of law.
Drunk driving is a good example, if we use common sense, then we are looking at a privilege with rules. If someone breaks the rules, then they lose that privilege and the access that allow them to drive - the car. If we throw out common sense and use emotion, then it becomes a right with no real recourse - meaning punishments are not fitting the "crime" because there is no "crime" due to being a right. To explain this a bit further driving drunk in itself would not be a crime, the crime would be when something happens to directly harm another. There is no way to predict this, so hence until the crime happens, we have no right to do a thing.
We look at the person station in life as something important (Leo's need to interject civil servant's harm being more serious than a child being harmed), which negates the idea we are a nation of laws and everyone is equal. It interjects emotion, Obama said it clearly what we are to him with the Tucson event that "one of our own was attacked", which leaves us with the idea that they - elected officials - are more important than the common man. This has no common sense involved, just emotion and if one is to scream to execute those criminals, then they must also enforce what system we have by demanding everyone to be treated equally in front of the law - including the judges and politicians who we allow to serve.
Common sense would dictate that we have to maintain our system of law under all circumstances not because we are a nation of men (and women) but a nation of law.
Drunk driving is a good example, if we use common sense, then we are looking at a privilege with rules. If someone breaks the rules, then they lose that privilege and the access that allow them to drive - the car. If we throw out common sense and use emotion, then it becomes a right with no real recourse - meaning punishments are not fitting the "crime" because there is no "crime" due to being a right. To explain this a bit further driving drunk in itself would not be a crime, the crime would be when something happens to directly harm another. There is no way to predict this, so hence until the crime happens, we have no right to do a thing.
We look at the person station in life as something important (Leo's need to interject civil servant's harm being more serious than a child being harmed), which negates the idea we are a nation of laws and everyone is equal. It interjects emotion, Obama said it clearly what we are to him with the Tucson event that "one of our own was attacked", which leaves us with the idea that they - elected officials - are more important than the common man. This has no common sense involved, just emotion and if one is to scream to execute those criminals, then they must also enforce what system we have by demanding everyone to be treated equally in front of the law - including the judges and politicians who we allow to serve.