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lol, its this guy again. I think hes just trolling, go back and read some of his posts, its ridiculous. This is the same guy who needed someone to pick him up from down south and take him to Louisville, but now he can afford to buy a brand new van?

red solo cup, I fill you up. Sounds like he had only that part on a loop, lol. God, what a horrible song.

Booked!

Called up Pimp C, did a song last week with my :censoredsign: Bun B F'ing Master P...lol. God I used to listen to that lame :censoredsign:.

Whose that? Panther?

Oh no, here we go again.

I try to stay out of this kind of thing, but I cant bite my tongue on this one. Do you have any idea how ignorant that sounds?

I was just saying that im going to give this a go regardless of the warnings not to.

Absolutely correct. :D Not that I don't value what you guys have to say. I do. Ive learned A LOT about this business thanks to this site. But ive always been a "learn things the hard way" kind of guy. That's the best way to learn, imo.

Ahh. I see.

And why is it just Penske vans? I mean why aren't there any used U-Haul or ryder vans?

lol...no way. This is cheaper than going to the movies. I cant tell you how much $ ive saved watching forum battles over the years. :popcorn2:

6 months ago a friend of mine mentioned something about a friend of his who did multi day runs for a local courier service as an independent contractor. Out and back kind of thing. I was very interested. I had considered getting my class A a few times, but hauling one of those bastards around a...

Ok, well ive jacked the thread long enough. Thanks, Turtle.

Speaking of that, ive gathered most carriers want vehicles within 5 or 10 years old. Is that only to sign on? Meaning, if your van is still running fine and you don't need a new one after 5 years, do they want you to buy a new one? Ok, that's what I was thinking. Sometimes I overthink the...

That's what I was getting at comparing van A and van B. Maybe I wasn't explaining myself very well. So you're saying even if you buy the van outright you should include what a monthly payment would be into your CPM?

Oh ok, I didn't know that. I see. I haven't heard of TCOPM before, how does that figure into your business strategy? Just estimate the life span of your van and sock some $ away every check accordingly?

But shouldn't someones CPM be the same regardless if they have a payment or not? For example, person A and person B have the exact same van. Person A bought his outright, person B has a payment. They still cost the same ( minus intrest for person B ) so unless someone gave person A his van for...

So the loss of property is more importiant than the loss of a human life to some people. That's just sad. When you say "we" do you mean the expedite industry as a whole?

So I guess it will take someone getting killed in an accident or someone destroying half a million dollars worth of merchandise without the ability to cover it before something is done? I know the main consensus in this industry is kind of "regulation is the enemy" but it seems that this may be...