Where do you draw the line?

[greg334]

I was watching CNN this morning, they had a human interest spot running which really got me to thinking about the country, the constitution and if we are a country of men (and women) or a country of laws.

The piece was about an Army reservist who is fighting to keep his wife in the country. She has grew up in this country, has kids with the guy but is an invader, coming from Guatemala. Now the piece they ran is a sympathy piece but it brings up a very good question about ethics and oaths and the country's foundation.

When you join the military, your job, purpose or what ever you want to call it is not to break the laws of the country, the most basic and fundamental laws but to defend those laws, the country and uphold the constitution, right?

Is it ethical to disregard the laws and fight for something that actually chips away on the very foundation that everything this country stands when you were actually dishonest when you took the oath to the country and its people?

What bothers me the most is the special considerations that the reporter and writer of the piece was trying to say he deserves, which is because he fought for our country, he deserves to have his wife by his side, not deported to a country she doesn't know. To me, maybe I am a pr*ck about sovereignty and our country pver people's needs, it doesn't matter what he has done, his needs to keep a criminal here on our shores doesn't outweigh any thing he could have done to make up for the inability to be honest when he took that oath to the country.

 

[letzrockexpress]

maybe I am a pr*ck

Could be.. You're definitely not presenting yourself as compassionate, that's for sure..I do get your point though. I haven't walked in this man's shoes. They did break the law, that is clear. There should be some penalty for that. Should this family be broken up as part of that penalty? I wouldn't want to make that determination...Does Love transcend all boundaries?? That is the question...

 

[chefdennis]

chances are she knowingly and willingly broke laws on all levels from local, state and fed...she has defrauded all of those not to mention civil laws....she signed contract with the government to serve it military needs and probably to get "benefits" but now she is being called to perform the duty she illegally signed up for, she wants to use the fact that she isn't a legal citizen to get out of that duty she signed up for....

arrest her and charge her with as many counts as laws she has broken....then deport her....she chose her actions, breaking up her family is on her, no one else,.....

 

[greg334]

Could be.. You're definitely not presenting yourself as compassionate, that's for sure..I do get your point though. I haven't walked in this man's shoes. They did break the law, that is clear. There should be some penalty for that. Should this family be broken up as part of that penalty? I wouldn't want to make that determination...Does Love transcend all boundaries?? That is the question...

I am not compassionate for a lot of this stuff, here is a guy who is depending on his status to get himself and his wife out of hot water by breaking the law that makes everyone a victim.

I don't buy into breaking up the family thing at all simply because we do this every day with both good meaning people and people who are just mean.

Take our justice system, it doesn't seem to matter to a judge who is sentencing a person for the crime that they committed, regardless if it was robbing a gas station to to feed his/her family or support a drug habit, what the overreaching affect is on the guys/gals family.

The actions of the person who commits the crime puts them in a position that they have to pay the price, albeit the family does too but if we consider the family in this case as a mitigating factor, where does society draw the line?

If we make special considerations for criminals, then it should be applied to all, not just immigration cases. We should have in place a review process so the serial rapist who has kids will not have to put their family through the pain of daddy being gone, maybe probation would be a better solution for the family?

Chef, she is the one being deported, he is the reservist fighting to keep her here.

 

[chefdennis]

awww my bad...i read it as he had already served, she signed up......she still broke the law.....his status holds no water, bounce her.....

 

[witness23]

Chef, she is the one being deported, he is the reservist fighting to keep her here.

Chef

awww my bad...i read it as he had already served, she signed up

lol....imagine that.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

He married her, which makes her a LEGAL alien.

 

[chefdennis]

still doesn't change the fact that she came here illegally, she was an "illegal" before he married her...she grew up here as an illegal....throw her azz out....

 

[greg334]

He married her, which makes her a LEGAL alien.

Marrying someone does not make them a legal resident, they have to go through the same process as anyone else to get here and to marry.

The INS and other immigration 'authorities' have forced deportation of spouses for a number of reasons, one is lying and the other is illegally entering the country.