Cargo Van When to replace your van

Steady Eddie

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
This week's Bambi problem could have forced me to replace my current low top van, but it is to be fixed.

That said, when should a smart vanner replace his/her van? I know I'm missing out on some freight by not being Sprinter height, but how much?

The current van is in pretty good shape, except for a tick in the area of cylinder #8. It's a 4.6, with 357k on it and has been maintained well but not perfectly. The tick sounds like a lifter issue and is fairly quiet except for the first 3 seconds of running. It has one awesome feature: it's paid off .

Wise ones, what say you?

When should a "smart vanner ", replace their van? A smart vanner will not. IMO.
Have your lifters adjusted see if that solves the problem. If it's a GM the lifter studs are pressed in and maybe they are backing out. I had that happen on a new GM crate engine, replaced under warranty.
Your monthly payment that you no longer have can go into repairs until it is top notch shape. Even replacing the engine if need to.

Don't worry about missing loads because of "Sprinter " type loads. Most of mine are cargo van loads with a few long and tall throwed in.





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DollarSign

Fleet Owner
Owner/Operator
This week's Bambi problem could have forced me to replace my current low top van, but it is to be fixed.

That said, when should a smart vanner replace his/her van? I know I'm missing out on some freight by not being Sprinter height, but how much?

The current van is in pretty good shape, except for a tick in the area of cylinder #8. It's a 4.6, with 357k on it and has been maintained well but not perfectly. The tick sounds like a lifter issue and is fairly quiet except for the first 3 seconds of running. It has one awesome feature: it's paid off .

Wise ones, what say you?

When should a "smart vanner ", replace their van? A smart vanner will not. IMO.
Have your lifters adjusted see if that solves the problem. If it's a GM the lifter studs are pressed in and maybe they are backing out. I had that happen on a new GM crate engine, replaced under warranty.
Your monthly payment that you no longer have can go into repairs until it is top notch shape. Even replacing the engine if need to.

Don't worry about missing loads because of "Sprinter " type loads. Most of mine are cargo van loads with a few long and tall throwed in.





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BUT dang Eddie! Let the man have some dignity when he has to put his pants on. Lol
 
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Treadmill

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Currently close to 500k on my 2012 Sprinter. Will probably have that by the end of next week. Not sure when and if I replace it. The jury is still out.
 
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T270_Dreamin

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Replace it immediately if you want to make American wages. Last I checked carriers are now requesting 2015 and newer. Haven't found any carriers that will allow a 06 Sprinter that pay .90-$1.05 a mile. So if your van is not grand fathered in and already on a fleet you're pretty much screwed and stuck with carriers that will pay .70 cents a mile to run a full size sprinter.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Replace it immediately if you want to make American wages. Last I checked carriers are now requesting 2015 and newer. Haven't found any carriers that will allow a 06 Sprinter that pay .90-$1.05 a mile. So if your van is not grand fathered in and already on a fleet you're pretty much screwed and stuck with carriers that will pay .70 cents a mile to run a full size sprinter.
Let's see.... ummm who pays .90 now?
Panther? Nope
Bolt? Nope
PTL? Nope
Roadrunner? Nope
We are talking base rate?
Iam at a small carrier and never seen .70 yet... close tho and will probably happen...but Iam also a % guy...
Please enlighten me
 
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ntimevan

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Let's see.... ummm who pays .90 now?
Panther? Nope
Bolt? Nope
PTL? Nope
Roadrunner? Nope
We are talking base rate?
Iam at a small carrier and never seen .70 yet... close tho and will probably happen...but Iam also a % guy...
Please enlighten me
How many times do I have to remind you ..... too many people get wrapped up in the Loaded Mile Rate only .... remember it costs the same to run empty DH miles as loaded miles .... People need to operate on ALL Miles rate figures .... know your costs = knowing your Net profits....

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OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Let's see.... ummm who pays .90 now?
Panther? Nope
Bolt? Nope
PTL? Nope
Roadrunner? Nope
We are talking base rate?
Iam at a small carrier and never seen .70 yet... close tho and will probably happen...but Iam also a % guy...
Please enlighten me
How many times do I have to remind you ..... too many people get wrapped up in the Loaded Mile Rate only .... remember it costs the same to run empty DH miles as loaded miles .... People need to operate on ALL Miles rate figures .... know your costs = knowing your Net profits....

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I was not even addressing that portion the gentleman was talking about how much other carriers were paying.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
I absolutely agree it makes no sense to make a dollar a mile and a have to dh 200 miles just to go get the miles all count and you said know your cost per mile
 
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T270_Dreamin

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Replace it immediately if you want to make American wages. Last I checked carriers are now requesting 2015 and newer. Haven't found any carriers that will allow a 06 Sprinter that pay .90-$1.05 a mile. So if your van is not grand fathered in and already on a fleet you're pretty much screwed and stuck with carriers that will pay .70 cents a mile to run a full size sprinter.
Let's see.... ummm who pays .90 now?
Panther? Nope
Bolt? Nope
PTL? Nope
Roadrunner? Nope
We are talking base rate?
Iam at a small carrier and never seen .70 yet... close tho and will probably happen...but Iam also a % guy...
Please enlighten me


Last I checked bolt is paying .95-1.05. I also heard load one pays good but you have to get on a list and wait. PTL pays decent I hear but can't get you more then 1200-1400 miles a week but that was a while back when I talked to them. Panther was at .75-80 with surcharge. They don't give any special incentives or better pay for a sprinter, they treat you like a e 150 low top short wheel base 1500 lb capacity van :)
 
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fastman_1

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Last I checked bolt is paying .95-1.05. I also heard load one pays good but you have to get on a list and wait. PTL pays decent I hear but can't get you more then 1200-1400 miles a week but that was a while back when I talked to them. Panther was at .75-80 with surcharge. They don't give any special incentives or better pay for a sprinter, they treat you like a e 150 low top short wheel base 1500 lb capacity van :)

PTL .80 plus fsc, for now...


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OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Percentage pay Will see a dollar more often...even Bolt has they're $.60-$.80 freight
pTL new rate is.75
 

T270_Dreamin

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Lets make a list with 30+ carriers with their rates and weekly deductions anyone opposed to it or can we make this a go?? We are about 10% there already in this thread.;)

Bolt has some cheap loads but I hear you can just say no to cheap freight
 
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