When are these idiots going to learn

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
Those pileups almost always happen when you're driving along and you can see, then suddenly it's a near whiteout and you can't see. Because of the can't see problem, someone just ahead of you has suddenly slowed down and you can't see it. You crash into them. Someone behind you suddenly can't see, and the same thing happens again. Lather rinse repeat.
 

tknight

Veteran Expediter
I agree but if they didn't follow so close they may have time to stop same as in the fog I think the snow is worse cause of the loss in traction
Following to close , slamming into a truck and getting hooked and dragged 16 miles ......... Well that must have really been scary!

Pa I-80 wb 2 pile ups 3 dead we all know the speeds and total disregard for others cause a lot of wrecks
 
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mjmsprt40

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
That section of I-94 is pretty fast, normally. I never have encountered heavy traffic there except during an accident situation, so--- it can catch you by surprise. Add the "Hero Driver" who believes that his driving and vehicle are a match for any condition so he rarely slows down---.use your imagination for what happens next.

Today I was a wee bit further West. Interstate 80 through Eastern Iowa had to be a demolition derby last night, when I came through along about Noon there were cars and trucks in both ditches and the median. Look, whether you have two axles and four wheels or five axles and eighteen wheels, it doesn't matter--- when those tires break traction with the pavement and you're on ice, you're not driving anymore--- you're just along for the ride until the tires get a grip again. At 60 to 70 mph, that is one scary ride.
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
When you can see, you aren't following too close. Suddenly, you can't see, and you're following too close.

Twice that I can recall I've been driving when suddenly I ran into a wall of white out conditions, like someone flipped a switch. You look up ahead and you can see just fine, then all of a sudden, while you're looking at traffic 1000 or 2000 feet ahead of you, without warning, you can't see anything. It's like someone out of the blue laid a white sheet on your windshield. It's not like you can see this wall of snow up ahead and you're driving towards it, about to hit it, like you can with a wall of burning smoke or a dust storm out west. You don't see that wall at all. Everything's clear, then suddenly it's not.

It's kinda like when you're driving in North or South Dakota and there's snow blowing all over the place, but you can still see clearly, even at night. Then a big truck passes you, dragging snow behind it, and instantly you're blind for 15 seconds, hoping and praying the road doesn't curve even a little bit for the next 1500 feet. You take your foot completely off the gas, but you're still blind, and now you're going slow enough that truck after truck starts repeating the process. It's fun.
 
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skyraider

Veteran Expediter
US Navy
The video , imho , watching the last of the wrecks , the truck and cars still going to fast for conditions, yes a white squall so to speak can get you, but it was pretty clear what I was seeing in the video, sloooooooooooooooooow, down u all.
 

mjmsprt40

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
"The road is slicker than an oiled mirror and I can barely see my hood ornament! Tell those half-brained 4-wheelers to get outa my way, I got a hot shipment and a time-commitment to meet!"

Still want to know when these idiots are gonna learn? If "professional drivers" think like that, what chance do the half-brained 4-wheelers have to figure it out, since we're obviously not as bright as the big-rig "professionals".

Now-- before anybody says ANYTHING--- I've seen the stuff some of you write, and as God is my ultimate Judge-- some of you seem to think like that and you let it show. "Get outa my way, I'm a professional!" Yep, you're a pro all right. See you in the ditch, facing the wrong way and on your side.

Look--- the road is slicker than an oiled mirror, you CAN'T STOP, maybe it's time to slow down-- or find a safe place to get off and stop completely. Too bad about the time commitment, but the load won't get there faster if you're the 47th vehicle in a 60-vehicle pile-up.
 

muttly

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
"The road is slicker than an oiled mirror and I can barely see my hood ornament! Tell those half-brained 4-wheelers to get outa my way, I got a hot shipment and a time-commitment to meet!"

Still want to know when these idiots are gonna learn? If "professional drivers" think like that, what chance do the half-brained 4-wheelers have to figure it out, since we're obviously not as bright as the big-rig "professionals".

Now-- before anybody says ANYTHING--- I've seen the stuff some of you write, and as God is my ultimate Judge-- some of you seem to think like that and you let it show. "Get outa my way, I'm a professional!" Yep, you're a pro all right. See you in the ditch, facing the wrong way and on your side.

Look--- the road is slicker than an oiled mirror, you CAN'T STOP, maybe it's time to slow down-- or find a safe place to get off and stop completely. Too bad about the time commitment, but the load won't get there faster if you're the 47th vehicle in a 60-vehicle pile-up.

Completely agree. It's about drivers driving too fast. Some just refuse to slow down regardless of the conditions.
 

blizzard2014

Veteran Expediter
Driver
These idiots will never learn. I've been driving big trucks and cargo vans since 2000 and every winter it's the same old song and dance. You'd figure the government would just close down the roads when conditions are bad, or that drivers would pull over until the storm lets up. I don't care how good of a driver you are, how confident you are, or how slow you're going in adverse weather conditions. You're still gambling with your life. And for what? To get a load delivered on time? I have seen drivers going along in the snow, driving at a safe speed, and safe manner, just to have some other idiot come barreling down the highway only to slam into them. Driving in adverse conditions is not worth that extra load. Nope. That is why I take a few months off during the winter time. You can call me whatever you want, I'm not gong to go sliding on the ice ever again. I have control of two things out here. One is the rate per mile I will run a load for, and the second is who I will run for, and in what kind of weather I win run it in. I choose to avoid the ditch and remain rich! I hope you all are having a fine winter out there.
 
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dwd58

Active Expediter
I-94 is one of the craziest roads I have ever driven. I would say there are more stupid drivers on this road and the upper part of I-65 than any roads in the country.
 

mjmsprt40

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I had to look at that link a couple of times. Partly because I have a job today picking up in Bolingbrook, Illinois and heading to Battle Creek, Michigan. Exit #92 on the I-94. So, it's really important which Sunday they're talking about. Might need to re-route a bit.
 
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