Hi Salty, I agree with you. I have sevral trucks, but I pay my drivers 40% gross and i pay for everything, I pay my drivers to drive. My drivers ave. $850-$1100 week. I go on here to the classified adds, and call every so often to see what other owners are paying. And I have to say it is bad. I hear a lot of them pay 60% but the driver pays fuel and tolls. First, why can't owner pay tolls, almost all companys pay back tolls, and why make the driver pay for fuel? I think they don't want the driver to idel the truck so much, which is ok right? Wrong! The owner if he has done his homework, will be with a company where his truck won't be sitting very long and that lowers ideling time. My drivers know how I feel about ideling, but if you want to have a succsesful business, you need to have good people around you first. I think thats why if you call for one of these adds, ask how long most drivers stay with him, and ask why they leave. I have all the original drivers, I have ZERO turnover. I started my own business after driving for 10yrs, and went and bought 2 trucks(semi's). I drove one and my freind drove the other. I now have 7 trucks, all in excallent condition, and each driver I have working for me loves it. So, look around there are good owners out there.