What your Kids are being Taught in Public Schools

[chefdennis]

By union teachers....

Is This Iowa High School Teaching Students Communism Is Better Than Capitalism? See the Flyer

• Posted on February 3, 2012 at 9:25am by
• Mike Opelka
• http://www.theblaze.com/stories/is-...nism-is-better-than-capitalism-see-the-flyer/
  
  This curious flyer was handed out to students studying the history of the Cold War at Roosevelt High School in Des Moines, Iowa.

What do you think the lesson was supposed to be?

Let’s review.
The CAPITALISM side of the flyer shows workers in tattered clothing, chained to a machine that delivers all of the money produced to a cigar-smoking man who is also much better dressed.
Over on the COMMUNISM side, there is no boss and the smiling workers are better dressed, don’t have chains on their legs and the money goes back to them.
This gem was discovered by Simon Conway of Iowa’s Who Radio. A listener who is a parent of a student at the high school, sent the hand out to the radio host. Conway read the words of the flyer verbatim:

“Communism stands for equal sharing of the work according to the benefits and ability. But in Capitalism an individual is responsible for his works and if he wants to raise the ladder, he has to work hard.”
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He continued to read and clarify further:

“While the profit of any enterprise is equally shared by all in Communism, the profit in the Capitalist structure belongs to the private owner only.”
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Conway contacted Roosevelt High School for an explanation and was told that only person who could speak for the school on this topic is the principal. The Blaze has also reached out to Principal Kathie Danielson for comment. As of this writing, the principal has not responded.

 

[witness23]

lol........that is some great journalism right there I tell ya.

 

[clcooper]

By union teachers....

they need to teach the truth nothing but the truth .

by the picture neither CAPITALISM or COMMUNISM are right .

 

[Turtle]

I'd be willing to bet real money ($100) that the flier was part of a History class where they were studying propaganda related to the Cold War, rather being something to teach kids that Communism is better than Capitalism. Any takers? I mean, the radio show did an entire hour on it, and people are outraged, so it must be true and for certain. You can't lose. It'll be like getting free money.

BTW, I take PayPal.

 

[clcooper]

the studying propaganda related to the Cold War. . no where in the flier they posted discussed about the propaganda . only what is the difference between Communism and Capitalism. and if you read it you will see they are trying to say Communism is better than Capitalism. and which side would this cartoon be for

 

[Turtle]

Correct. If you look at the context solely within the context of the cartoon, and then make the assumption that it is a standalone item and not part of the studies, and that it was created (in the style of the 1950s print media cartoons) specifically to teach kids that Communism is better than Capitalism, then there would be cause for concern (maybe even the fake outrage we are seeing over it). But it's nothing more than a textbook example of the propaganda of the time of the Cold War and the McCarthy Hearings. You can't study that stuff without, you know, looking at it and reading about it.

Those who ignore history, especially those who refuse to even acknowledge it, are doomed to repeat it.

 

[clcooper]

Correct. If you look at the context solely within the context of the cartoon, and then make the assumption that it is a standalone item and not part of the studies, and that it was created (in the style of the 1950s print media cartoons) specifically to teach kids that Communism is better than Capitalism, then there would be cause for concern (maybe even the fake outrage we are seeing over it). But it's nothing more than a textbook example of the propaganda of the time of the Cold War and the McCarthy Hearings. You can't study that stuff without, you know, looking at it and reading about it.

Those who ignore history, especially those who refuse to even acknowledge it, are doomed to repeat it.

but she said she was over 18 . keep putting suger on that dog poo . it will still be dog poo .

i agree with what you say . but this is not as you say it is . there is no dates. only the words USSR and the cold war it self . at the end .
clear you mind and read it agian . look and see how they word it . they make Communism sound better .
Communism is good ,Communism is good,Communism is good,Communism is good .how long will it take to get the young minds to believe what you want them to .

and during the 50s what group should they been worried about more . but they waited untill the 80s to do anything about that group . now they forgot that group again .

 

[cheri1122]

That's like someone snapping a photo of me reading Mao's Little Red Book, and claiming it proves that I am a Communist.
Except it doesn't. It proves only that I read the book, not what I thought about it.
I am certain that the illustration was used as an example of the sort of propaganda employed by the Communist leaders of Russia, China, etc. I'm just wondering whether it was balanced by an example of the propaganda used by the capitalists, as well.....

 

[cheri1122]

If you click on the link in the OP, there is an update, with a response from the school. It was indeed part of a lesson comparing the propaganda tactics of both communists and capitalists during the Cold War.
Kind of funny that they only showed the one, though, innit?
But hey, it worked - people are quick to believe that those 'UNION' teachers are teaching kids that communism is good and capitalism is bad.
If they actually read the article, that is.

 

[clcooper]

If you click on the link in the OP, there is an update, with a response from the school. It was indeed part of a lesson comparing the propaganda tactics of both communists and capitalists during the Cold War.
Kind of funny that they only showed the one, though, innit?
But hey, it worked - people are quick to believe that those 'UNION' teachers are teaching kids that communism is good and capitalism is bad.
If they actually read the article, that is.

no where does it compare the propaganda tactics .

which worker has the smiling faces.

go read step 2 on the page 6

and somebody said about history . i ask how was Hitler able to do what he did . propaganda tactics is one way . it is still used today .

keep drinking the Kool-Aid . if you were handed this what would you think the message they want you to receive .

 

[Turtle]

Isn't it amazing how the more information you get about something, the less you have to assume stuff, and the more accurate your conclusions become.

 

[clcooper]

Isn't it amazing how the more information you get about something, the less you have to assume stuff, and the more accurate your conclusions become.

and are the children getting enough information. the information i see here is they are getting that

communism is good and capitalism is bad.

 

[cheri1122]

no where does it compare the propaganda tactics .

In the illustration, it doesn't. But the point is that the illustration is just one piece of a lesson, and not a complete portrayal of the whole lesson.

which worker has the smiling faces.

The expediter, of course!

go read step 2 on the page 6

Huh? What step? What page 6?! What are you babbling about?!

and somebody said about history . i ask how was Hitler able to do what he did . propaganda tactics is one way . it is still used today .

And it still works - on people who are content to accept without question whatever they read.

keep drinking the Kool-Aid .

I quit drinking Kool Aid many years ago, thanks.

if you were handed this what would you think the message they want you to receive .

That it's a message they want me to receive - and then I'd want to know why they want me to think that way.

 

[clcooper]

no where does it compare the propaganda tactics .

In the illustration, it doesn't. But the point is that the illustration is just one piece of a lesson, and not a complete portrayal of the whole lesson.

which worker has the smiling faces.

The expediter, of course!

go read step 2 on the page 6

Huh? What step? What page 6?! What are you babbling about?!

and somebody said about history . i ask how was Hitler able to do what he did . propaganda tactics is one way . it is still used today .

And it still works - on people who are content to accept without question whatever they read.

keep drinking the Kool-Aid .

I quit drinking Kool Aid many years ago, thanks.

if you were handed this what would you think the message they want you to receive .

That it's a message they want me to receive - and then I'd want to know why they want me to think that way.

compare the propaganda tactics . is not being compared ANYWHERE IN THE FLYER .

expediter great answer no wonder the USA is in the shape it is in . since i need to help you .the workers for Communism are the smiling one .The Capitalism workers are not smiling and have a ball and chain .

on people who are content to accept without question whatever they read.

keep drinking the Kool-Aid
are you preaching to me something you cant do yourself . asking what step 2 and then you say i am the babbling one ???? go look you will find a step 2 on page 6

again keep drinking their Kool-Aid they want you to think that way.DONT THINK FOR YOURSELF let them think for you

this flyer is ONE SIDED

 

[Turtle]

and are the children getting enough information. the information i see here is they are getting that

communism is good and capitalism is bad.

Ok, seriously... what is wrong with you? Rather than make just butt stoopid assumptions about what they are being taught in a high school in Des Moines, based on a single item of study, why not find out what the heck is really going on? Or better yet, pull the foot-long carrots (euphemism for St. Bernard Turds) out of your ears and actually think about it for two seconds.

This cartoon was not the entire day's history lesson. They weren't given the flier and told "Communism is good, Capitalism is bad". This cartoon is but one of countless examples of Cold War propaganda, which they were studying in History class. You can't study History without learning about what happened and how it happened. You can't study the history of Communism and the Cold War without seeing how pro-Communists tried to convince people that Communism was good, including seeing the propaganda cartoons that were found in many of the underground Communist newspapers of the day.

I absolutely guarantee you, with real money on the line, that they are not teaching "communism is good and capitalism is bad" at a high school in Des Moines, IA.


"no where does it compare the propaganda tactics ."

Actually, yes it does, in the original, unedited lesson plan, which is described below and can be found at the link at the bottom of the quoted text. The entire lesson plan, in fact, is 100% about comparing the propaganda tactics.


"compare the propaganda tactics . is not being compared ANYWHERE IN THE FLYER ."

That's because what is being presented to you as the FLYER is a lie, a falsehood, an untruth. The original isn't a flyier at all, but an entire lesson plan that was edited down to a single cartoon and described as a flyer. This is a perfect example of propaganda, and you bought it. You took the bait and swallowed it hook, line and sinker. You've been manipulated, hoodwinked, bamboozled. How do you feel now?

RADIO TALK SHOW MISREPRESENTS CLASS LESSON ON COLD WAR
A talk show on WHO Radio has unfortunately misled listeners about a class lesson about the Cold War. The radio show posted, on its web site, only a selectively edited part of a class handout – entitled “The two sides of the Cold War” - in order to give a false impression that students were being taught to support communism.

In light of the misrepresentation caused by this talk show, we have posted the handout and assignments here on our web site so that people can see the complete document for themselves. Furthermore, the class, 20[SUP]th[/SUP] Century History, was studying the Cold War and propaganda, looking at some of the arguments both sides made about why their system was best on a range of topics, including their economies. The handout simply highlights the differences between capitalism and communism, and some of the arguments made during the period of the Cold War.

It is unfortunate that a talk show host decided to mislead his listeners in order to generate false criticism of our schools and our teachers.

To see the unedited lesson and assignments, click here.

I understand that a another high school in Des Moines they have History books containing pictures of Hitler.

Go!

 

[clcooper]

so tells me what they are teaching there how do you know . where you there that day . so if i am making assumptions so are you . because you know ,seen as much as i have .

so what are propaganda tactics. ???

it is not the differance between

This is a perfect example of drinking their koolaid , and you bought it. You took the bait and swallowed it hook, line and sinker. You've been manipulated, hoodwinked, bamboozled. How do you feel now?

because you think that the teacher are the good guys . and cant do no wrong . . agian you will eat their sugar coated poo . just because they say it is all sugar . you wont think out of the box . because all teachers are good

DUHHH you mean there was more . mabe if you go to that link and look at step 2 page 6 . also

 

[Turtle]

No, because I looked at the PDF of the entire thing, rather than take the word of a radio talk show host who's job is to be controversial for ratings without regard to the truth. In other words, I choose the truth over the unsubstantiated lie. You, on the other hand, not only believe the lie, but prefer it.

 

[clcooper]

i am looking a the pdf also . i just now went to the link of the radio show . and did you listen to the show . listen to the part with Matt the teacher .at the 2:30 mark. i guess he is a paid actor and what he said has never happened every .

how do you know who is telling the truth .?? the PDF was posted after the radio show . not before . the school had time to back step .
the school that may want to cover up . or the radio host that has a problem with the school . or wants somebody to be fired .??

do you know what a cover up is ??. do you know why somebody would do a cover up ???

You know the problem with dishonest teachers? It gives the other 5% a bad name.

 

[Turtle]

how do you know who is telling the truth .??

How do I know? Because I use things like common sense, intelligence, critical thinking and reasoning to cut through all the crap. That's now I know. I can conclude which is the more likely scenario. I can also remember what the History lessons were when I was in high school, and they included the same exact types of propaganda examples, and not once did I or any other student think we were being taught that Communism was preferable to Capitalism. Also, in Iowa, Capitalistic Corn is King, and the whole notion of those people entertaining the idea of Communistic Corn is just laughable.

 

[clcooper]

How do I know? Because I use things like common sense, intelligence, critical thinking and reasoning to cut through all the crap. That's now I know. I can conclude which is the more likely scenario. I can also remember what the History lessons were when I was in high school, and they included the same exact types of propaganda examples, and not once did I or any other student think we were being taught that Communism was preferable to Capitalism. Also, in Iowa, Capitalistic Corn is King, and the whole notion of those people entertaining the idea of Communistic Corn is just laughable.

how do youi know what your fellow class mates were thinking . back when you were in school do you think things was differant then . are people buying bomb shelters today because of the USSR . like they were in the 50s and 60s. .

the indians were the king of the west at one time also . and what happened to them . so you saying a Communistic teacher cant be in a school in Iowa .
yes you did use critical thinking and reasoning to think that a teacher or a school can ever do anything bad .
now use your common sense, intelligence, critical thinking and reasoning . the how what and when . has this ever happened before ,how did it happen can it happen . who was involved .
some say what happened in the past cant happen agian because we have laws now . YEP since they passed a law people cant shot somebody . since then nobody has ever been shot .

this is about what a teacher is teaching his/her class . it is not about the the whole state .

you know what forget it . you are just as single mind as the rest . you see a black men walking down the street with a gun you call the cops right away . but if you see a white man you say he just bought it and is on his way home . you see the schools as GODS and cant do anything wrong . schools dont break the law . because we all know every teacher teaches the same way . and they only teach what they are told to .
like i said forget about it . because you use your common sense, intelligence, critical thinking and reasoning yep no teacher ever tried to teach about something they werent aloud too . YEP never happened before and never can happen because we live in a PERFECT WORLD . people dont kill other over money . people dont steal , Enron was just a movie . even 9/11 was false because people dont ever do bad things
so i say forget about it . i need to shut my eyes and dream also so i can be like you all .

just like with this we all know nothing like this can ever happen . the just make up stories like this . like a sit com on tv .


remind me of the planet of the apes . go watch it and watch how he apes thought and denied so right now there is a lot of apes