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[layoutshooter]

Ironically, since Obama took office, illegal immigrants crossing the border are down (more of them are being caught at the border), and deportations of illegals are up.

But those are just the facts. Now back to our regularly scheduled misnomers, misinformations and misunderstandings.

At least that is what is being reported. Can one trust an administration that is likely destroying evidence of it's illegal use of the IRS? Can one trust the press, that is lying for the administration on a regular basis? I have a problem doing that.

 

[Ragman]

Well, that is NOT an answer. This nation has an absolute RIGHT to secure borders. They are not. It IS the job of the military, under the direction of the president, to do EXACTLY that. This president, like all in the past, is NOT doing his job. Sorry if the reality that the use of violence MAY be needed to secure the borders offends you. That is, how the world is. Unless you are willing to come up with a better idea, handle this so our borders are secure, I suggest it best to allow those who's job it is to do that, be allowed to do so.

This "invasion" is being helped by our enemies, be they drug cartels, or another country, or cartels being directed by other countries. Regardless, either the government controls the border, or, the People will. There is only so much we can take.

AND

Until the borders ARE controlled, even MORE kids will be exploited for the sex trades, drug mules etc etc etc.

Securing and controlilng the borders using the military is one thing, but using the ruthless tactics used by the East Germans is another.

 

[layoutshooter]

Securing and controlilng the borders using the military is one thing, but using the ruthless tactics used by the East Germans is another.

Now, when they start across that border, and do not stop when told to stop, what is your answer?


I don't know is NOT a valid answer.

Lest you forget, generally speaking, the East Germans used those "ruthless tactics" to keep their own people IN, to stop them from escaping. Not many people WANTED to sneak INTO East Germany.

Keeping people out, who are sneaking in, is a different problem

 

[Ragman]

Now, when they start across that border, and do not stop when told to stop, what is your answer?


I don't know is NOT a valid answer.

Asked and answered.

Defend the borders as necessary, but not using the ruthless methods of the East Germans.

 

[layoutshooter]

Asked and answered.

Defend the borders as necessary, but not using the ruthless methods of the East Germans.

What is YOUR SOLUTION? You MUST have one. IF the military is used, as it is meant to be used, there will be deaths. IF you wish to avoid that, YOU must have the answer, we are waiting for it.

 

[Ragman]

What is YOUR SOLUTION? You MUST have one. IF the military is used, as it is meant to be used, there will be deaths. IF you wish to avoid that, YOU must have the answer, we are waiting for it.

I understand there will be deaths, if fired upon, by all means fire back and shoot to kill, However with that said, firing on a group of unarmed people is just wrong. That is something the East Germans would do, not the U.S.A.

IMHO of course.

 

[layoutshooter]

I understand there will be deaths, if fired upon, by all means fire back and shoot to kill, However with that said, firing on a group of unarmed people is just wrong. That is something the East Germans would do, not the U.S.A.

IMHO of course.

That is NOT a solution. HOW would YOU keep them out? It HAS to be done, YOU are in charge, how are YOU going HAVE to stop them, now HOW?

 

[davekc]

Ironically, since Obama took office, illegal immigrants crossing the border are down (more of them are being caught at the border), and deportations of illegals are up.

But those are just the facts. Now back to our regularly scheduled misnomers, misinformations and misunderstandings.

That is accurate information, but I believe from last year. With the new "wave" over the last six months I am starting to wonder. They have so many now they say they can't count them all. Mainly women and kids.

On a side note, I don't think you need to gun people down to secure the border. Take away the free stuff and water stations and it will slow to a crawl.

 

[layoutshooter]

"That is accurate information, "

Brought to you by the same people who said we could keep our insurance policy if we liked it. ZERO credibility.

 

[davekc]

"That is accurate information, "

Brought to you by the same people who said we could keep our insurance policy if we liked it. ZERO credibility.

"There's not a smidgen of truth to that".

 

[layoutshooter]

Just as Witch Hillary says that automatic weapons are used in school shootings. OH YEAH, and vets are not dying waiting to see doctors either. And NO ONE knew ANYTHING about Benghazi, and and and and

 

[Turtle]

"That is accurate information, "

Brought to you by the same people who said we could keep our insurance policy if we liked it. ZERO credibility.

I got it from the NSA.

 

[LDB]

Did you ever go to East Germany? I've been to the border. Their "ruthless" tactics were a double fence the entire length of the border, razor wired on top, with troops and dogs patrolling in between, enough to see the next one in the far distance, 24/7/365. The number of people that breached the border was extremely small and it was due to their "ruthless" fence primarily. That was well before night vision, thermal detection and all the technology that could be added today. There's no reason we can't have at least 99% secure borders.

Take away every benefit and social service from every criminal alien who entered illegally. Take DNA and ban that criminal alien from U.S. citizenship for life. Post notices in the primary areas along the fence. Word will spread globally in no time at all. I guess that would be ruthless though. We can only be tough and adamant as long as it's kinder and gentler and polite and sweet and non judgmental and hurts no one's feelings.

 

[layoutshooter]

I got it from the NSA.

The one run by Clinton or Obama? That would explain EVERYTHING! LOL!

 

[LDB]

Wonder why Odumba and regime were surprised these last few weeks by so many criminal alien minors when back in January the government put out a bid specifically to take care of them?

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportu...12fbc917a46d6709d38bd&tab=core&tabmode=list&=

 

[Turtle]

Wonder why Odumba and regime were surprised these last few weeks by so many criminal alien minors when back in January the government put out a bid specifically to take care of them?

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportu...12fbc917a46d6709d38bd&tab=core&tabmode=list&=

First, they weren't surprised. That's why they put out the bid. Second, the bid doesn't include escort for criminal alien minors. The bid is specifically to provide on-demand escort services for non-criminal/non-delinquent unaccompanied alien children ages infant to 17 years of age.

I bet you can get that done in Vegas without having to put out bids.

 

[Unclebob]

You need to start with basic business principles. Supply and demand will always rule. As long as people and businesses are hiring illegal immigrants they will find ways around ANY border security that is reasonable (we could always spread minefields and claymores by the millions if we don't mind condemning our souls to HELL).
If we make the penalty for hiring them harsh enough and use some of the thousands ( tens of thousand?) of border patrol agents to enforce it we can take away the demand for them to cross our borders. No work = no money to send home.
It won't stop all crossings but it should substantially reduce it. This will enable the fences and agents that are in place to be much more effective.
Of course the business special interests will never allow that to happen. We can't be hurting their profits that would be un-american.

 

[layoutshooter]

First, they weren't surprised. That's why they put out the bid. Second, the bid doesn't include escort for criminal alien minors. The bid is specifically to provide on-demand escort services for non-criminal/non-delinquent unaccompanied alien children ages infant to 17 years of age.

I bet you can get that done in Vegas without having to put out bids.

IF they were not surprised, they were complicant.

 

[LDB]

Are they here legally? Oh, criminal aliens who happen to be minors. Hmmm, one could even just call them criminal alien minors and be absolutely correct. Or one could choose kinder, gentler, softer, milder, unoffensive terms to avoid hurting their delicate widdle feelings... and be part of the problem as a result.

 

[Turtle]

Are they here legally? Oh, criminal aliens who happen to be minors. Hmmm, one could even just call them criminal alien minors and be absolutely correct. Or one could choose kinder, gentler, softer, milder, unoffensive terms to avoid hurting their delicate widdle feelings... and be part of the problem as a result.

Criminal is a legal term, applying only to someone convicted of a crime. Merely breaking the law, or being charged with an offense, does not in and of itself make one a criminal. Even a first conviction of illegal immigration is a misdemeanor, like speeding. So, if you've ever gotten a speeding ticket, then you're a criminal citizen. Own it.

But in any case, again, the bid is specifically to provide on-demand escort services for non-criminal/non-delinquent unaccompanied alien children ages infant to 17 years of age. The bid is not for criminal or delinquent accompanied alien children.