What cops say about gun confiscation

AMonger · Dec 30, 2012

I don't know much about Natural News, but FWIW, here's what they have to say:

(NaturalNews) In the wake of the recent Sandy Hook shooting, I reached out to my contacts in law enforcement, military and (retired) FBI over the last three days, asking three simple questions:

#1) Do you think Obama will use executive orders to demand nationwide gun confiscation?

#2) If such an order is given, will you or fellow members of your organization enforce it against the citizens? (And if so, how?)

#3) What is the solution to stopping future mass shootings?

I posed these questions to one ex-FBI agent, one retired Sheriff's deputy, two active duty city police detectives, one retired former police captain of a major U.S. city, two U.S. Army veterans and one USMC veteran, discharged several years ago after two tours in Afghanistan during which he sustained a severe personal injury. For obvious reasons, none of them wish to be identified by name, but their answers below speak to their credibility and authenticity.

Here are their answers.

Remainder at http://www.naturalnews.com/038391_gun_confiscation_executive_orders_cops.html

LDB · Dec 30, 2012

We are headed for Civil War 2, just as sure as we had World War 2, if the current regime continues on their current path.

tenntrucker · Dec 30, 2012

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layoutshooter · Dec 30, 2012

What does that picture have to do with freedom?

tenntrucker · Dec 30, 2012

......says Freedom Forever. And if you saw the movie, one of its greatest lines was ..."people shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of their people.

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layoutshooter · Dec 30, 2012

tenntrucker said:
......says Freedom Forever. And if you saw the movie, one of its greatest lines was ..."people shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of their people.

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Got it! See the movie? Never even heard of it. Love that line.

Ragman · Dec 30, 2012

AMonger said:
#1) Do you think Obama will use executive orders to demand nationwide gun confiscation?

#2) If such an order is given, will you or fellow members of your organization enforce it against the citizens? (And if so, how?)

#1) A president does not have that kind of authority.

#2) See #1

layoutshooter · Dec 30, 2012

Ragman said:
#1) A president does not have that kind of authority.

#2) See #1

One, he does not believe that he is president, he believes he is the supreme dictator.

Two, not having the legal authority won't stop him from trying.

Three, a witnessed in his youth, he does not believe that any laws apply to him.

Four, Evil is as evil does.

Ragman · Dec 30, 2012

layoutshooter said:
One, he does not believe that he is president, he believes he is the supreme dictator.

Two, not having the legal authority won't stop him from trying.

Three, a witnessed in his youth, he does not believe that any laws apply to him.

Four, Evil is as evil does.

Oh YEAH,

so there.

davekc · Dec 30, 2012

I think he wants gun control, but I don't think he will get anything substantial passed. This is a place where "by exective order" won't have any traction.

layoutshooter · Dec 30, 2012

It would NOT surprise me one bit if he makes an attempt to try something when congress goes into recess. He KNOW that the Senate will NOT overturn an executive order to restrict Constitutional rights. He has every intention to eliminate the Bill of Rights over the next four years, along with the rest of the Constitution. He does not believe in it. He believes in an all powerful central, Marxist controlled government, and will stop at nothing to achieve that goal.

As my unit crest says. "Vigilant Always" Millions of true Constitutional patriots are watching his every move. Not much more is going to be tolerated.

davekc · Dec 30, 2012

I think he is gutless and won't want to burn that much political capital to push something substational. Seen him today on Meet the Press and he almost seemed like he didn't want to be bothered by it.

layoutshooter · Dec 30, 2012

He ALREADY has his slimy, lying thugs, out spouting his swill for him.

"Separately, a member of the president's cabinet said Sunday that rural America may be ready to join a national conversation about gun control. Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack said the debate has to start with respect for the Second Amendment right to bear arms and recognition that hunting is a way of life for millions of Americans."

First off, ALL of the Bill of Rights MUST be ADHERED to whether he and his stooges respect it or not. Second, the Second Amendment has NOTHING to do with hunting. Mark my word. They are going to say that NO ONE NEEDS any semi auto to hunt deer AND NO ONE needs a cartridge as "POWERFUL" as what the military uses. The lie fest is staring. Pravda will do NOTHING to insure that any sort of truth comes out. Too bad, because freedom of the press is part of the Bill of Rights they are trying so hard to destroy. The fools don't understand that they may be next.

In case some at Pravda don't remember the First Amendment, here it is:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-wants-gun-violence-measures-passed-2013-140306667--finance.html

davekc · Dec 30, 2012

Oh I think he wants gun control but not convinced he is going to push anything big. Maybe registration on certain types but that may be it. I don't see outright confiscation of guns at this point even though he may desire that.

layoutshooter · Dec 30, 2012

ANY restriction, registration or ban, negates the Second Amendment and the ENTIRE Constitution. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED means EXACTLY that. ANY restriction, registration or ban that does not FIRST restrict government agencies proves it is about control of the People and NOT crime control.

The lie fest is starting. Obama IS being watched, carefully, by his superiors. The People. They have already spoken, guns and ammo are flying off the shelves. People who believe in freedom are going to take no more.

davekc · Dec 30, 2012

If you had to register one, how is that denying your right to have a gun? I don't believe the constitution says anything about that. Registration doesn't equal restriction.

layoutshooter · Dec 30, 2012

davekc said:
If you had to register one, how is that denying your right to have a gun? I don't believe the constitution says anything about that. Registration doesn't equal restriction.

One, registration allows the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to know what objects I own. They have NO RIGHT to know that under the Constitution. Two, registration is just the first step to confiscation. The Constitution does not HAVE to say that they can. If it is not there, they can't. Also, in the event of a foreign invasion, those records make it easier for an enemy to disarm the populace, AND, when the press prints that list it will make firearms owners a target for thieves. Lots of dopers, like a young Obama, used home invasions to support their habits. Firearms are a favorite thing to steal.

How much FORCE will they use to insure that FREE MEN get PERMISSION from OUR EMPLOYEES to exercise our RIGHTS? They can kiss my grits. I won't do it. I WILL own what I chose and DEFY them to stop me. You can bet that little coward won't come in person to enforce it.

How much will it COST, the fee, for the RIGHT to exercise MY RIGHTS? Wonder why a black man would like want to impose a tax, which is EXACTLY the same as the "POLL TAX", that was used to deny OTHER black men THEIR RIGHTS under the Constitution?

He can kiss my grits. I did not spend 20 years defending our Constitution to allow this Marxist to trash it. Nor anyone else, foreign OR domestic. As the oath reads.

Ragman · Dec 30, 2012

layoutshooter said:
One, registration allows the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to know what objects I own. They have NO RIGHT to know that under the Constitution.

Do you object to having to register your truck? just curious.

davekc · Dec 30, 2012

One, registration allows the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to know what objects I own. They have NO RIGHT to know that under the Constitution. Two, registration is just the first step to confiscation.

I don't believe there is anything in the constitution that says that. You currently have states that already have that component as a requirement.
Some are being challenged and pending and a result below.
As to whether that is a step to confiscation, it may or may not be. But certainly will be used as a revenue producer as it currently is.

But you do have this problem.
http://www.scotusblog.com/2010/03/new-d-c-gun-laws-upheld/
http://thepatriotperspective.wordpr...d-gregory-violates-dc-gun-law-on-national-tv/

I believe now you can have the gun but have to go through the registration process.

Pilgrim · Dec 30, 2012

Too bad all these armament consumers didn't get off their butts and vote against Obama back in November. NOW they're concerned about their 2d amendment rights?? They should have done something when they had the chance instead of leaving their constitutional rights in the hands of ignorant welfare parasites and college students. In this election Obama had a record as POTUS upon which to base a decision, unlike the one in 2008. The US voters have spoken - those who didn't speak (vote) don't count. Maybe they take their 2d amendment rights for granted.