Well that fizzled .... van for sale.

[Monty]

I thought I had it sold, but the buyer was not interested in the logistics of getting the title from Daimler.

Decided I'll just drive it on to August ..... that was my original plan anyway ...

btw .... I did a LOT of research on a replacement. For weight and capacity, the Sprinter 3500 still has all others beat.

That Turtle Top setup, no matter what you did with it, allowed a max of 1800-2,000 pounds.

The 3500 Sprinter can do 3,700 pounds, and still be under 10,000 GVW

 

[OntarioVanMan]

I thought I had it sold, but the buyer was not interested in the logistics of getting the title from Daimler.

Decided I'll just drive it on to August ..... that was my original plan anyway ...

btw .... I did a LOT of research on a replacement. For weight and capacity, the Sprinter 3500 still has all others beat.

That Turtle Top setup, no matter what you did with it, allowed a max of 1800-2,000 pounds.

The 3500 Sprinter can do 3,700 pounds, and still be under 10,000 GVW

What is the span between the wheel wells now?

 

[LisaLouHoo]

More than 2".

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[cannedmeat27]

A sprinter 3500 is only 38" between wheel wells.

 

[wimpy007]

Memphis at the "J" talk with an O/O who had a 3500 Sprinter who had made a floor to cover the wheels, from the back door, too just behind the seats. with storage underneath. So far has not lost a load due to height

 

[scottm4211]

How would he know what he's missing?

 

[ebsprintin]

After installing a bed length floor that I trusted I wonder how much weight capacity would be left.

Lisa, you know chefdennis was taunting you over in another thread?

eb

 

[LDB]

I met a guy with a Sprinter 3500. They replaced the duals with a wide base single and plan to modify the wheel well to allow a skid to fit. One drawback to a false floor is raising the center of gravity. That wouldn't be very desirable. Unless there's a way to do it differently, you tell dispatch your dimensions and get loads that fit. You wouldn't know if there was a load 3 inches taller than you can take but lost it since it wouldn't ever be offered.

 

[Rocketman]

I met a guy with a Sprinter 3500. They replaced the duals with a wide base single and plan to modify the wheel well to allow a skid to fit. One drawback to a false floor is raising the center of gravity. That wouldn't be very desirable. Unless there's a way to do it differently, you tell dispatch your dimensions and get loads that fit. You wouldn't know if there was a load 3 inches taller than you can take but lost it since it wouldn't ever be offered.

I would love to see that setup. Ive often thought that would be a great setup but I never checked the availability of the wide base tires and wheels for the Sprinter.

Im assuming the elimination of the duals was going gain some extra space for widening the distance between the wheel wells?

 

[OntarioVanMan]

and there we go trying to re invent the wheel.....its able to carry 3700 lbs because it is a dually...make it a single wheel set-up just lowers what you can carry....the door sticker becomes a lie....

 

[Rocketman]

and there we go trying to re invent the wheel.....its able to carry 3700 lbs because it is a dually...make it a single wheel set-up just lowers what you can carry....the door sticker becomes a lie....

There sure are a lot illegal 18 wheelers out there if thats the case. As long as that wide based tire and wheel are rated to carry the weight....should be the same.

 

[scottm4211]

and there we go trying to re invent the wheel.....its able to carry 3700 lbs because it is a dually...make it a single wheel set-up just lowers what you can carry....the door sticker becomes a lie....

That's exactly what they did, reinvent the wheel with the super singles lol.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

There sure are a lot illegal 18 wheelers out there if thats the case. As long as that wide based tire and wheel are rated to carry the weight....should be the same.

That is not what I meant....do they make a super wide for a CV...I've seen wide tires but not wide enough or load range high enough to replace a dually....if that were the case why does the CargoMaxx use the 17.5 on the rear and not a "wide tire"

 

[scottm4211]

That is not what I meant....do they make a super wide for a CV...I've seen wide tires but not wide enough or load range high enough to replace a dually....if that were the case why does the CargoMaxx use the 17.5 on the rear and not a "wide tire"

Same net result though whether through width or height.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Same net result though whether through width or height.

No it is not.....I wide wide track tires on my Camero....there is no way they'd do 3700lbs...
To my knowledge there is no 16in tire that has over a 4,000 lb load range....

 

[scottm4211]

No it is not.....I wide wide track tires on my Camero....there is no way they'd do 3700lbs...
To my knowledge there is no 16in tire that has over a 4,000 lb load range....

I meant whether or not the replacement single is wider or higher so long as its rated properly then the net result is the same. And I believe the DRW's on the Sprinter are 15".

 

[OntarioVanMan]

I meant whether or not the replacement single is wider or higher so long as its rated properly then the net result is the same. And I believe the DRW's on the Sprinter are 15".

You be correct.....to think one can convert a sprinter into a SWD, within the engineering specs that is allowed on a Sprinter and be able to haul 3700 Lb payload is lying to themselves....there is nothing that I've found under a 17.5 inch tire that can do that weight....heck even the Michelins are only rated at load range of about 3200 including vehicle...

I've seen the DRW conversions to SWD....using a conventional E class tire...

 

[Rocketman]

No it is not.....I wide wide track tires on my Camero....there is no way they'd do 3700lbs...
To my knowledge there is no 16in tire that has over a 4,000 lb load range....

Look at my first comment. I never looked into the availability of wide based tires and rims for the Sprinter. Apparently someone did though...according to LDB. Im saying that if they are available and the weight rating is there...that would be a great modification the 3500 Sprinter. Possibly making it one of the better setups available.

Michelin does build a 285/70/16 with a weight rating of 3750 lbs...or so it is shown on their website. That would give you 7500 lbs of the 10k on the drive axle...should be more than enough.

 

[xmudman]

OVM, your Camaro's a passenger car; tires are load range B. Most vans have load range D (8-ply) or E (10-ply) tires. Super singles are an option on Sprinters in Europe and Australia; as to why they didn't come here, I don't know.

 

[Rocketman]

That is not what I meant....do they make a super wide for a CV...I've seen wide tires but not wide enough or load range high enough to replace a dually....if that were the case why does the CargoMaxx use the 17.5 on the rear and not a "wide tire"

Honestly I dont know why CargoMax used the 17.5 on the rear unless it allowed them to keep a smaller tire and still get the load rating. As mentioned above, Michelin builds a 16" tire with the same load rating...but that 285/70 is a lot of tire.