V.P. Joe Biden's home defense tip of the day.

muttly

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Biden : You don't need an 'assault weapon'. Just get yourself a double barrel shotgun and fire two shots through the door.

 

layoutshooter

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First off, what Biden suggested was illegal. Then many of the shotguns shown in that video will be illegal if Obama gets his way, they had pistol grips.

Where in the world did they get those ditzy women at? I have been around MANY woman shooter and have NEVER seen anything so stupid.

Check out this video of 5 time US Olympic WOMEN'S skeet shooting champion, Kimberly Rhode. Notice what a DOUBLE BARREL 12 Gauge looks like when handled properly. Those women in the video are either total ditzes or they were set up to fail.

It takes all of 5 minutes to teach anyone how to fire a shotgun without all the dramatics except Obama or Biden, maybe. You can't teach an old idiot new tricks.




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skyraider

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lmao,,,anyone got o2 handy,,,,,,,,,,are we sure we want women in the military carry guns, just saying. Aren't the ladies to dainty and delicate for such stuff, maybe they should stick to malls and diaper shopping for the kids................i don't really mean that, but it sounded good, didn't it? I will be in the bunker.....................
 

layoutshooter

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lmao,,,anyone got o2 handy,,,,,,,,,,are we sure we want women in the military carry guns, just saying. Aren't the ladies to dainty and delicate for such stuff, maybe they should stick to malls and diaper shopping for the kids................i don't really mean that, but it sounded good, didn't it? I will be in the bunker.....................

Yeah, you better head for the bunker! LOL!!

Keep in mind that, given equal training, odds are a woman will out shoot a man.

ONE thing WAS correct in that video. A AR15, or one of the clones, DOES have WAY less recoil than a 12GA shotgun no matter how light a load it is shooting.
 

muttly

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Yeah, you better head for the bunker! LOL!!

Keep in mind that, given equal training, odds are a woman will out shoot a man.

ONE thing WAS correct in that video. A AR15, or one of the clones, DOES have WAY less recoil than a 12GA shotgun no matter how light a load it is shooting.

I didn't know that about the AR15 or similar rifles. Didn't see much recoil in the video with the 110 pound girl that shot one.
 

layoutshooter

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I didn't know that about the AR15 or similar rifles. Didn't see much recoil in the video with the 110 pound girl that shot one.

I THOUGHT that is what I said. An AR15 has far LESS recoil than any 12ga shotgun with any load, no matter how light. The is only ONE exception to that rule, which is a full auto 12GA not available to the public.

LOTS and LOTS of 110lb girls, and boys for that matter, can handle a 12GA without a problem.

Did you watch the video of Kimberly? Her head is hardly moving with each shot. True, she is shooting light target loads, but she is also handling that shotgun in a proper manner.

I would LOVE to know how they set those women up to look so bad. OR, was it intentional. I did notice that none where shooting double barrels. Most where shooting pumps or semi-auto shotguns.
 

layoutshooter

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For those who need to know:

5.56MM 62gr bullet at about 3000FPS has 6lbs recoil at the shoulder

30.06 165gr bullet at about 2900FPS has 12lbs recoil at the shoulder

12GA 3 1/2in turkey loads at about 1200fps have about 77lbs at the shoulder

I have a feeling that they had put some REALLY hot loads into those shotguns for that video. Maybe even some 3 1/2 stuff. It was obvious that they did NOT show those women how to hold those shotguns right. It was a set up.

Not that Biden has a clue what he is talking about. He has had his foot in his mouth SO many times it is a wonder he does not have 'athlete's tongue'.
 
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muttly

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I THOUGHT that is what I said. An AR15 has far LESS recoil than any 12ga shotgun with any load, no matter how light. The is only ONE exception to that rule, which is a full auto 12GA not available to the public.

LOTS and LOTS of 110lb girls, and boys for that matter, can handle a 12GA without a problem.

Did you watch the video of Kimberly? Her head is hardly moving with each shot. True, she is shooting light target loads, but she is also handling that shotgun in a proper manner.

I would LOVE to know how they set those women up to look so bad. OR, was it intentional. I did notice that none where shooting double barrels. Most where shooting pumps or semi-auto shotguns.

Agree with proper training, most people even with limited stature should be able to handle 12GA.
Kimberly knows how to use the weapon, no doubt.
Not sure on the origin of video. Looks like the women in video are shooting the rifles for the first time so this could be how they were set up to look bad.
 

layoutshooter

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I kinda think that they were set up to "over dramatize" the recoil of a 12GA. It would seem that they were loaded up with "heavy loads" and NOT instructed on how to handle the shotgun. It was done to make Biden look even dumber than he really is. That is REALLY hard to do!

The AR is MUCH easier to handle and control for a beginner, without a doubt.
 
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