using a larger generator

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
As much as I'd really like to use one of the slimmer, lower profile generators like the small Hondas or Honeywells, the cost is just too high. I may have to go with the bigger kind, the ones mounted in the frame. I'm not crazy about the idea, but I may have to resort to that, being that they can be obtained for far less money. I've seen them mounted outside the van on the front or rear, but I don't have authorization to modify it or install anything like that. Has anyone used one of the larger generators like this, by keeping it inside until parking?
 

xiggi

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
the problem with those is the noise. They are so irritating to anyone parked near you. I have wanted to get out and turn off peoples in the middle of the night.
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
According to many people on the RV sites, the Generac 2000 doesn't have the initial power to fire up a 12k BTU air conditioner, as those require 3000 Watts to start. If the AC unit requires more than 2200 Watts to start, the Generac won't start it. But, the same 2000 Watt Honda generator will start up a 12K BTU (even a 13.5K BTU) without balking. You get what you pay for. There's a reason the Generac is so much cheaper than the Honda, and it's not because it performs the same as a Honda.

I looked at the Generac (mainly for use to charge batteries when sitting rather than idling the Sprinter), but the guy at Lowe's recommended against it because they have so many returned, usually because of a broken choke lever, but also for many other things. It's fine for an hour or two around the house now and then, but for longer term use or for high reliability, not so much. 2-year warranty for residential use, 90 days for commercial or RV use.

It's a shame, tho, since it's dimensions are exactly what I need. Exactly.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
About 3 years now with my Honda and flawless operation..there was couple learning opportunities about cleaning out carb bowl and cleaning spark plug.....
sometimes running ALL weekend/days on end...not a problem...worth it? Heck yeah...I would buy another in a heartbeat even though the price has gone up a couple hundred since my first purchase....so spend your 500 bucks or whatever....nearly every year...you definitely get what you pay for in this product.
 

asjssl

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
Besides being loud those knock offs CHUG fuel ..i have the honda 2000i it uses 1 gal every 15 18 hrs......those others gal every 2 hrs.....
 

skip432

Seasoned Expediter
I use a 4000 watt import (QTC I think) with a five gallon tank. I have been more than satisfied with it. 14 hr. run time on less than 3 gallons of gas. Starts first pull and has low oil cutoff. I run fridge, house battery, 30 amp converter charger with built in circuit breakers and 5 12vdc fused circuits, and two inverters, Fantastic fan, florescent light, tv, dvd player, amplified digital antenna, cell phone charger, battery operated beard trimmer, jambox,microwave, computer and 12k btu ac in summer and 1500 watt electric heater in the winter. Unit is mounted on the front of the van using a front mounted receiver hitch and a basket purchased at harbor freight. (you normally see these on the rear) Noise level is 68db. Think the Honda is 65db or so. I have it permanently mounted to basket and padlocked down to the basket. Basket is locked to the hitch which makes it nearly impossible to steal. Easy to service on the basket. You just have to remember that it is there when parking and driving. Its almost too heavy for me to lift so it stays there with a cover when traveling. The main reason for this setup is the ease and convenience of setting up camp. I always fill it up before leaving on a load so that I start it, plug in and enjoy the luxuries of home when bedding down. Takes longer to take the cover off. Total time less than five minutes after parking and shutting down. No need for a gas can. I park at the pump with my drivers door centered with the pump and the hose reaches the gas fill and the generator. With my electrical load it calculates out to about 1 gallon of gas every 6-7 hrs. Only draw back is the weight. Think it weighs in at about 110 lbs. I increased my air pressure in the front from 60 to 65 psi. After 40k miles all tires appear to be wearing well. I also plug in my van to any 110vac circuit where possible. (at home, friends house, company yard, or campground) This keeps the load off of the generator and reduces the 12vdc load on the batteries as the converter keeps batteries up and also supplies 12vdc to respected appliances. I love it and will continue using the same set up in the future. I bought the generator on ebay for 300. Sells for 400 in Nashville. If it makes a year then I'm happy. I'll buy another one just like it. If someone complains about the noise throw them an extension cord and tell him to plug it in your generator. You'll have plenty of power to power most other vans and estimated run time over 24 and possibly 30 plus hrs. In the winter you can spend more time inside staying warm. That's what I like.
 

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
According to many people on the RV sites, the Generac 2000 doesn't have the initial power to fire up a 12k BTU air conditioner, as those require 3000 Watts to start. If the AC unit requires more than 2200 Watts to start, the Generac won't start it. But, the same 2000 Watt Honda generator will start up a 12K BTU (even a 13.5K BTU) without balking. You get what you pay for. There's a reason the Generac is so much cheaper than the Honda, and it's not because it performs the same as a Honda.

I looked at the Generac (mainly for use to charge batteries when sitting rather than idling the Sprinter), but the guy at Lowe's recommended against it because they have so many returned, usually because of a broken choke lever, but also for many other things. It's fine for an hour or two around the house now and then, but for longer term use or for high reliability, not so much. 2-year warranty for residential use, 90 days for commercial or RV use.

It's a shame, tho, since it's dimensions are exactly what I need. Exactly.

C-rap. I was only going to go with an 8500 or 9000 BTU unit, but if their reliability is low, that would make it a bad idea. I have to figure out something. Idling is using up a lot of gas, and since it got hot again... I was offered a load to Laredo today, but somebody else snagged it before we did. The whole time, I was thinking of how hot it was going to be down there. I just don't think my owner's going to go for one of the more 'spensive models.
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
I've been in Laredo for days at a time when it was 110 every day, when the van's AC wasn't working. It was fun. But, once you get down south, if you can stay there for a while, it takes about 2 weeks to get used to it, but you will get used to it. Roof fan, cracked windows, maybe another fan, drink plenty of Gatorade and keep thinking about cool things, like sundown. :D

One upside to the Honda, if you can afford it is, it's yours, and you can take it with you wherever you go.
 

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
i paid $486 or 468 ( i can't remember) delivered to my door for my honeywell 2000i...i get you the website later today...

ok i bought mind last week on sale...ask them if they will honor that price including the shipping....

Honeywell HW2000i Portable Generator - HW2000i - 2000 Watt Portable Inverter Generator
Do you have any of the starting problems I'm reading about? How many pulls does it normally take you? I remember you showing me your AC unit. Could you please remind me what brand and BTUs it is? You were saying the Honeywell handles the startup just fine, and it's 2200W surge, right?
 

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
I've been in Laredo for days at a time when it was 110 every day, when the van's AC wasn't working. It was fun. But, once you get down south, if you can stay there for a while, it takes about 2 weeks to get used to it, but you will get used to it. Roof fan, cracked windows, maybe another fan, drink plenty of Gatorade and keep thinking about cool things, like sundown. :D
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I just looked. It's going to be cooler in Laredo for the next couple days than up north.

There's no way on God's green earth I could ever adapt to those temps without AC. Don't have a roof fan, don't have insulation, and even if I did, there's no way I could sleep like that.
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
No roof fan, no insulation, just an iron box sitting there on black asphalt under the sun. Yeah, that's what they do to you when you've misbehaved in a prison in French Guiana. They call it the cooler. :D

When it gets too hot, and I'm sick and tired of sitting there and sweating, I can actually lay down and just go to sleep. That way I don't have to worry about the heat, and when I wake up, it's cooler. Weird. I've always been like that, tho. I can't sleep when it's too cold. If my nose or toes are cold, forget it.
 

asjssl

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
Chef w/ what you have into 2 honeywells you could have a honda w/ a 3 year. Warranty
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
The 1st honeywell i had had a "primer bulb" on it, after it sat for a day you had to pump that bulb 30-50 times and it took 4-5 pulls to start...the new one doesn't have the primer bulb, they changed the carb and all you do is turn the gas on, choke it and it starts on no more then 3 pulls, usually the 2nd.

Yea, i looked at the NEW Honda 2 weeks ago, it isn't as powerful as the old 2000 hondas and it wouldn't handle the surge from the AC unit...the Honeywell is bigger in that it is 2000 constant and 2200 surge.
 

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
Yea, i looked at the NEW Honda 2 weeks ago, it isn't as powerful as the old 2000 hondas and it wouldn't handle the surge from the AC unit...the Honeywell is bigger in that it is 2000 constant and 2200 surge.
What's your make/model and BTU of AC again?
 

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
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