Understanding Antisemitism

moose

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{this thread is placed under the website forum because EO have became a place where antisemitism is allowed.}

[h=1]WORKING DEFINITION OF ANTISEMITISM[/h]
The purpose of this document is to provide a practical guide for identifying incidents, collecting data, and supporting the implementation and enforcement of legislation dealing with antisemitism.
Working definition: “Antisemitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of antisemitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities.”
In addition, such manifestations could also target the state of Israel, conceived as a Jewish collectivity. Antisemitism frequently charges Jews with conspiring to harm humanity, and it is often used to blame Jews for “why things go wrong.” It is expressed in speech, writing, visual forms and action, and employs sinister stereotypes and negative character traits.
Contemporary examples of antisemitism in public life, the media, schools, the workplace, and in the religious sphere could, taking into account the overall context, include, but are not limited to:

  • Calling for, aiding, or justifying the killing or harming of Jews in the name of a radical ideology or an extremist view of religion.
  • Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective — such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.
  • Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews.
  • Denying the fact, scope, mechanisms (e.g. gas chambers) or intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people at the hands of National Socialist Germany and its supporters and accomplices during World War II (the Holocaust).
  • Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust.
  • Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.
Examples of the ways in which antisemitism manifests itself with regard to the State of Israel taking into account the overall context could include:

  • Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.
  • Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
  • Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.
  • Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.

  • Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.
However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic.
Antisemitic acts are criminal when they are so defined by law (for example, denial of the Holocaust or distribution of antisemitic materials in some countries).
Criminal acts are antisemitic when the targets of attacks, whether they are people or property – such as buildings, schools, places of worship and cemeteries – are selected because they are, or are perceived to be, Jewish or linked to Jews.
Antisemitic discrimination is the denial to Jews of opportunities or services available to others and is illegal in many countries.

Working definition of Antisemitism: English. European Forum on Antisemitism
 

RLENT

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If can't win an argument on the merits, then the next best thing might be to try and smear your opponent ... ;)
 
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RLENT

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There's a kind of pathological narcissism, navel contemplation, when you are the richest, wealthiest, most successful ethnic group in the United States - you've got the world on a platter - and you sit around and you're talking about anti-Semitism, it's just kind of shameful I think.
~ Dr. Norman Finkelstein
 

RLENT

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{this thread is placed under the website forum because EO have became a place where antisemitism is allowed.}
Probably would have been more appropriate to put it in the "Rejecting The Gatekeepers That Seek To Limit The Discussion" thread I started ... as a prime example of an effort to limit the discussion ...
 

RLENT

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On the matter of anti-semitism - which is a very real and a quite ugly thing - I found the following documentary film - produced by a young Israeli film maker, Yoav Shamir - to be quite enlightening, as well as quite funny.

It is a tongue-in-cheek look at the issue, from the perspective of an Israeli sabra (someone who was born and grew up in Israel) ... who felt that he really couldn't wrap his head around the concept.

I should note that the web page title ("Crimes of the Jewish Lobby" etc.) which appears on the poster frame of the video is not mine (and does not reflect my views in any way whatsoever) - but are simply the words which the the person posting the video to YouTube chose. The actual name of the film is "Defamation"

It also bears mentioning that this video has been subtitled and posted to YouTube in a number of languages ... oddly though, the English version - which has been posted repeatedly - keeps getting taken down. Enjoy:

 
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RLENT

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Sorry, but I think you're conflating things.

The Palestinians have a right - recognized under International Law - to resist an unlawful occupation - even including armed struggle.

They - the indigenous population of the land (aka Palestinians) - have largely been driven out, had their lands stolen from them, and those that do remain suffer under a brutal occupation - one which denies their right to self-determination, and has done so at least for nearly 40 years ('67), if not longer.
 
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RLENT

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A review of Yoav Shamir's film "Defamation" by Phil Weiss over at Mondoweiss:

I saw a great movie last night, the documentary Defamation, by Yoav Shamir, an Israeli filmmaker. It premiered at the Tribeca Film Festival and it is about the consecration of anti-Semitism as the central mode of Jewish identity and the raison-d'etre of Jewish nationalism–it sustains Israel. The group of Israeli kids traveling to Majdanek carries the Israeli flag into the ruined gas chambers, and they all wear sweatshirts with the star of David and the word Israel on the back. The point of the film, stated by one of the sour concentration-camp tour-guides near the end, is that this is a miserable basis for Jewish existence, a cult of death and fear and mistrust.

The Israeli kids are so indoctrinated they think that the Poles are out to kill them now, and they don't go out of their hotel room. The film is great journalism for Shamir's tenacity at insiniuating himself into the emotional life of events, and for his portraits: of Abraham Foxman, Charles Jacobs, John Mearsheimer, Uri Avnery, and Norman Finkelstein.

(Article continues at link below)
Yoav Shamir's great film, 'Defamation, offers a devastating and transcendent portrait of Foxman | Mondoweiss
 
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OntarioVanMan

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{this thread is placed under the website forum because EO have became a place where antisemitism is allowed.}

actually free speech against ANY and ALL religions is allowed.......Just because "Special" laws were legislated on behalf of the Jewish peoples doesn't make it against the law to voice ones opinion about a certain religion......

so far on this site I've seen.....

anti mormon
anti catholic
anti JW
anti Muslim.....just to name a few.....Negative/criticism, words have been said about them all at one time or another....

I don't care for JW's because of the no blood transfusion issue
I don't care for Jewish because they force circumcision on their male babies.....which is in the worlds eyes is genitelia mutilation.....against the law in some countries....

and I don't think its hatred.....more a dislike of some of their religious policies....
 

Ragman

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Retired Expediter
so far on this site I've seen.....

anti mormon
anti catholic
anti JW
anti Muslim.....just to name a few.....Negative/criticism, words have been said about them all at one time or another....

I don't care for JW's because of the no blood transfusion issue
I don't care for Jewish because they force circumcision on their male babies.....which is in the worlds eyes is genitelia mutilation.....against the law in some countries....

and I don't think its hatred.....more a dislike of some of their religious policies....

We're not bigot's, we hate everybody equally.
 

paullud

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OntarioVanMan

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Owner/Operator
None of that has anything to do with EO, he said EO has become a place where it is happening.

Sent from my SCH-I535 using EO Forums mobile app

no...we are not kissing and hugging every Jewish person we see and agreeing with everything they say.....the "poor me" has worn off....
 

skyraider

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US Navy
Some knowledge is in order here.

antisemite, lets break that down, hmmm-- anti-semi ( someone who does not like big rigs. Now you add ; te . aah, so by adding te to it we have a dislike definition,,,he who controls the definitions controls the world,,,right?

On a serious note, I went to M and W big book

Sem·ite noun \ˈse-ˌmīt, especially British ˈsē-ˌmīt\
: a member of a group of people originally of southwestern Asia that includes Jews and Arabs
Full Definition of SEMITE

1
a : a member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs
b : a descendant of these peoples
2
: a member of a modern people speaking a Semitic language
See Semite defined for English-language learners »
See Semite defined for kids »
Origin of SEMITE

French sémite, from Sem Shem, from Late Latin, from Greek Sēm, from Hebrew Shēm
First Known Use: 1848 ( well lookey lookey, 1848 a new word, imagine that )

It would appear there are more than Jews here,,,how did that happen,hmmm, now one has a few zillion more to add....
 
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roadeyes

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IMO anyone who actually believes that they are the "chosen people" invite anti-semitism on themselves. It's a pretty arrogant attitude/belief. So what are the rest of us then? Chopped liver? According to the real Orthodox Jews,yes, that is all we are. They will not even shake your hand. You are pond scum to them. I have both seen and experienced this first hand on more than one occasion. We are the gentile. We are beneath them.

Since i do not condone racism or hatred in anyway towards any people on this planet, and no I am not trying to paint all Jews with the same brush as I know there are some who do not subscribe to those beliefs, It is hard for me to constantly swallow all this anti semitism crap I've read on here when the Jewish people themselves are some of the worst offenders. Many of them go out of their way to make people prejudiced against them.

Oh wait, I forgot, it's ok for them as they are the "chosen people". :-\
 
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