Under 10,001 Q's

[pjcampbell]

I am not new to trucking, but new to being under 10,001 lbs. My operation is moving to single truck with a GVWR of 10,000 exactly.

I am getting contradicting information from safersys.org vs fmcsa.dot.gov about what is needed for a FOR HIRE operation at or below 10,000 lbs GVWR.

Here is what I've come up with... No USDOT#, no HOS or logging of hours whatsoever. 300k insurance (as opposed to 750k). safersys.org says you need an MC #, but I've never heard of anyone with an MC # and no USDOT #. Do I have this correct? Is there anything else I should keep in mind. Is there any reason not to "keep" my existing USDOT #?

From safersys.org...

There are no applicable forms if the motor carrier does not need to file a Form MCS-150 (USDOT number) or OP-1 (MC number)

The Form MCS-150 (USDOT number) is required only for carriers that have large trucks (GVWR of more than 10,000 pounds) or that transport 9 or more passengers.

The Form OP-1 (Operating Authority / MC number) applies to for-hire carriers only.


I wanted to note this contradiction I seem to see everywhere....

One part of safersys.org says " All trucks with a GVWR of less than 10,000 pounds." Other says "GVWR of more than 10,000 pounds". That "1" pound makes a big difference!!!

 

[JohnMueller]

pjcampbell;

If you are intending to transport other "people's" freight FOR-HIRE across state lines (interstate) then you are required to obtain authority from the FMCSA. This authority will give you your "MC" number. I would suggest obtaining a US DOT number also. Even private carriers operating small vehicles are required to have DOT numbers.

As far as logging, you must log in the state of Alabama if operating any sort of commercial motor vehicle, regardless of GVW. The states have the right to exceed the Federal Regs, which Alabama has done.

You will find that the regulations (49CFR) contained in that little green Safety Regs book you have seen in the past, has different definitions of "Commercial Motor Vehicle" depending on which section of the regulations you are referring to. An example is logging - applies to drivers of vehicles with gvw of 10,001 lb. or more, or that carry placardable quantities of hazmat. The CDL (B) is required of drivers who operate vehicles with GVW exceeding 26,000 lbs. and so on.

I hope this assists you.

Thanks,
HotFr8Recruiter

 

[fastrod]

You do not need a dot number for 10,000 pounds or under. Your insurance will need to be 750,000 instead of 300,000 if you want a dot number. Use a service like Permits Plus to get your authority, it is money well spent. You will also need 10,000 dollars cargo insurance.