Truck Owners how they feel that they can do just anything to you
- Thread starter Gapeach
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First, welcome to the forums.
There are plenty of good owners out there. As there are good drivers. There are also a lot of both bad owners and bad drivers.
It can be a real challenge for either owners or drivers to find the better of each.
Maybe a little more homework would be in order when you look for the next owner to drive for. There are many good ones.
http://www.expeditersonline.com/for...rum/58076-fleet-owner-trying-keep-escrow.html
Interestingly, the same odd phrasing of "two notice" is used in both threads to mean "two weeks notice."
zorry
Veteran Expediter
Figured same country,same neighborhood, or maybe SAME POSTER !!!
Welcome.
The best tip I can give anyone no mater what type of work you seek. Always interview the prospective employer, customer, partner/co-driver the same way if not tougher than they interview you. Ask the tough questions, in fact I try to make them justify my working for them, Its what I call psyche strategy just like playing chess and using the Jedi mind trick. If they dont answer your questions to your satisfaction politely turn down the job. A word of warning use common sense and caution when doing this so you dont risk not getting a decent job.
Now I will say if you dammage his equipment or freight, if you got piszed off and simply parked his truck somplace and he had to go get it, or pay somone to get it back, if you returned the truck and he had to repairit, have it cleaned, you simply didnt maintain it, or if you have had any advances paid so you can live on the road, any and all legit monies owed to him are his to claim and there is no foul. Most owners will keep your escrow or security deposit for anywhere from one month up to nine months of your last delivery to make sure there are no suprise expenses, fines, tickets, or freight claims. however should be returned after a stated time in your contract or employment agreement.
If your former employer has not given an acceptable explaination of why they held your money and you have proof that it is owed then you an always take it to the state labor board. All escrows especialy those held and your getting paid should have been explained.
Good luck
Bob Wolf.
The best tip I can give anyone no mater what type of work you seek. Always interview the prospective employer, customer, partner/co-driver the same way if not tougher than they interview you. Ask the tough questions, in fact I try to make them justify my working for them, Its what I call psyche strategy just like playing chess and using the Jedi mind trick. If they dont answer your questions to your satisfaction politely turn down the job. A word of warning use common sense and caution when doing this so you dont risk not getting a decent job.
Now I will say if you dammage his equipment or freight, if you got piszed off and simply parked his truck somplace and he had to go get it, or pay somone to get it back, if you returned the truck and he had to repairit, have it cleaned, you simply didnt maintain it, or if you have had any advances paid so you can live on the road, any and all legit monies owed to him are his to claim and there is no foul. Most owners will keep your escrow or security deposit for anywhere from one month up to nine months of your last delivery to make sure there are no suprise expenses, fines, tickets, or freight claims. however should be returned after a stated time in your contract or employment agreement.
If your former employer has not given an acceptable explaination of why they held your money and you have proof that it is owed then you an always take it to the state labor board. All escrows especialy those held and your getting paid should have been explained.
Good luck
Bob Wolf.
Nine months is ridiculous it should be returned in a timely manner on month tops.
I worked for a carrier that handled spec-com and trade shows and I learned a shipper has nine months to file a claim the owner and carrier should be able to cover thier own butts as well. I agree nine months is rediculous but when I received my check six months after my last job it came in handy like a Christmass buonus.
Remember, there are two sides to every story.
Bob Wolf.
Remember, there are two sides to every story.
Bob Wolf.
fatboy1
Veteran Expediter
Like earlier post there is good and bad in both drivers and owners. In the 8 yrs we have done this only 1 put us out. It was the greatest thing God has ever done. What they owed us made, 100 times over since then. Now we own our on and dont have to deal with that any more. God is great.
Ummm???? Surely it couldn't be.
Sock puppets. Coming to a dresser drawer near you. Check forum for listings.
Humble2drive
Expert Expediter
A decision has been reached:
Posted by Ontherun on 3/16/2013
. . . Return of escrow after two notice is for filled $500. He claims he's keeping for himself. . .
Posted by GaPeach on 3/27/2013
. . . Gave a two notice to the owner of the truck we were driving and still took $500.00
It is determined that the odds of two different people using the same term "two notice" regarding an owner who kept $500.00 from them are 1 in a gazillion; therefore, it is believed that Ontherun and GaPeach are in fact the same person.
An investigation has been launched and two persons of interest "DougTravels" and "Greg" are being located for questioning.
Posted by Ontherun on 3/16/2013
. . . Return of escrow after two notice is for filled $500. He claims he's keeping for himself. . .
Posted by GaPeach on 3/27/2013
. . . Gave a two notice to the owner of the truck we were driving and still took $500.00
It is determined that the odds of two different people using the same term "two notice" regarding an owner who kept $500.00 from them are 1 in a gazillion; therefore, it is believed that Ontherun and GaPeach are in fact the same person.
An investigation has been launched and two persons of interest "DougTravels" and "Greg" are being located for questioning.
More tips....
1) Dont go all the way on the first date!!!!!
It dosent matter if its a Vehicle purchase, Customer, Job, or other business decision unless its a critical emergency. It will drive the sales guy, load broker, dispacher, recruiter and prospective employeer nuts but, this will give you time to LOGICALY think a decision through. and you maintain some controll as well.
2) Read the entire contract.
Yes, I said read it and read it entirely. One trick I have discovered with several load brokers is they will often send out a contract that is a modified version of the ATA template. This is a good format in fact I use the same template however it can be altered so make sure you read the entire contract word for word. Dont just assume its a uniform contract and find later you agreed to forfiet a months pay because even though you made a delivery without any exceptions on the freight a shipper dosent pay and youre getting paid is dependant on a shipper paying the carrier.
Yes this is legal if its in a contract and it can be enforced. I Learned that one the hard way.
3) Untill you learn the shady contract tricks have YOUR Attorney, Accountant, as well as a close friend familiar with trucking contracts reat the contract. Notice I said YOUR extra sets of eyes not thiers. Make sure the Attorney is fluent in transportation law and contracts, and your accountant has your best intrest in mind.
Bob Wolf.
1) Dont go all the way on the first date!!!!!
It dosent matter if its a Vehicle purchase, Customer, Job, or other business decision unless its a critical emergency. It will drive the sales guy, load broker, dispacher, recruiter and prospective employeer nuts but, this will give you time to LOGICALY think a decision through. and you maintain some controll as well.
2) Read the entire contract.
Yes, I said read it and read it entirely. One trick I have discovered with several load brokers is they will often send out a contract that is a modified version of the ATA template. This is a good format in fact I use the same template however it can be altered so make sure you read the entire contract word for word. Dont just assume its a uniform contract and find later you agreed to forfiet a months pay because even though you made a delivery without any exceptions on the freight a shipper dosent pay and youre getting paid is dependant on a shipper paying the carrier.
Yes this is legal if its in a contract and it can be enforced. I Learned that one the hard way.
3) Untill you learn the shady contract tricks have YOUR Attorney, Accountant, as well as a close friend familiar with trucking contracts reat the contract. Notice I said YOUR extra sets of eyes not thiers. Make sure the Attorney is fluent in transportation law and contracts, and your accountant has your best intrest in mind.
Bob Wolf.