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Is there any difference between a transgender and someone who wants to change their ethnicity?
For the past couple of decades, Rachel Dolezal has claimed to be part African American. She has used this false claim and portrayal to help obtain a teaching position at a college and also at the NAACP. She has also claimed to be a victim of numerous hate crimes. Those claims appear to be dubious as well.

Hot-take heaven: Spokane NAACP president allegedly faked being black
Rachel Dolezal not only runs the Spokane chapter of the NAACP, she also teaches “Africana education” at Eastern Washington University, lists a master’s degree from traditionally black Howard University on her CV, and claims to have been the victim of several instances of racial harassment. She also personally identifies as African-American, which came as a surprise to her parents, who are both of European Caucasion descent. A long-simmering family feud broke out into the open after her family told local media that Dolezal is in fact white and has been lying about her heritage all along. BuzzFeed had the story last night:

But on Thursday, Dolezal’s parents also told local media outlets that their daughter’s heritage is Czech, Swedish, and German — including possible traces of Native American.

Larry Dolezal told BuzzFeed News he could not fully explain why his daughter might have wanted to pose as a black woman.

But, he added: “She has over the past 20 years assimilated herself into the African American community through her various advocacy and social justice work, and so that may be part of the answer.”

He went on to say that Rachel cut off all communication with him and her mother, and “doesn’t want us visible in the Spokane area in her circle because we’re Caucasian.”

There has been a debate in the US for decades — centuries, really — over identity and race, and how one calculates that for those of mixed heritage. The Dolezal case isn’t that debate. Her parents — who adopted three African-American sons, one of whom Dolezal claimed to be her own son — state that there simply is no African heritage in either side of the family.

Either they’re lying, or Dolezal is, and there doesn’t seem to be much reason for the parents to lie. They also produced childhood pictures of Dolezal which show a blond, freckle-faced young girl with straight hair in contrast to how Dolezal appears today. The response from Dolezal on these inconvenient facts emerging is … gobbledygook:

Dolezal, 37, avoided answering questions directly about her race and ethnicity Thursday, saying, “I feel like I owe my executive committee a conversation” before engaging in a broader discussion with the community about what she described as a “multilayered” issue.

“That question is not as easy as it seems,” she said after being contacted at Eastern Washington University, where she’s a part-time professor in the Africana Studies Program. “There’s a lot of complexities … and I don’t know that everyone would understand that.”

Later, in an apparent reference to the origins of human life in Africa, Dolezal added: “We’re all from the African continent.”

What about those hate crimes Dolezal reported? Those look a little suspicious, too:

Neumaier said he was suspicious of several incidents Dolezal reported in Coeur d’Alene, including her discovery of a swastika on the door of the Human Rights Education Institute when the organization’s security camera was “mysteriously turned off.”

“None of them passed the smell test,” he said.

He said that after Dolezal left the institute and he saw her gaining prominence in Spokane – becoming head of the NAACP, chairman of the police ombudsman oversight commission, teaching at Eastern Washington University, and speaking frequently in public on racism and justice issues – that he became worried that there might be “blowback” for the institute for not doing a better job of vetting her.

Part of Neumaier’s job on the board is to look at complaints of human rights violations and help victims take action and seek justice.

“In all of these incidents (she reported in Coeur d’Alene), she was the sole witness to events that, when put under scrutiny, don’t hold up,” he said.

Two of her adopted brothersdon’t seem impressed by Dolezal, either. One compared it to going in blackface, while another noted that Dolezal’s fraud extended to her Facebook page by posting a picture of an unrelated black couple and identifying them as her parents:

“Back in the early 1900s, what she did would be considered highly racist,” Ezra Dolezal, who said he is “25 percent black,” said. “… You really should not do that. It’s completely opposite – she’s basically creating more racism.”

Zach Dolezal, 21, said when he visited his sister in Spokane, he was told not to speak of Lawrence and Ruthanne as their parents.

“It’s a farce, really, is what it is,” he said, adding he thought Rachel had posted a photo of a black couple from Spokane on her Facebook page whom she referred to as her parents.

For some reason, Dolezal gave CBS an interview, and …. it didn’t go well for her:


So what’s to be learned from this? We will assuredly get some people arguing that if gender identity is fluid, then so can ethnic or racial identity as well. We will also hear that Dolezal may be compensating for trauma or attempting to embrace an identity to work for social justice. Those arguments make as much sense as claiming a common fossil ancestor to justify Dolezal’s posturing. There won’t be much to learn from this except that all claims require some verification, and people who commit fraud will sometimes go to great lengths to sustain it. But we’ll definitely call this Hot-Take Friday and have fun with it until the next identity-crisis story comes along.

Update: All right, I can’t resist adding my own hot take to this story. What’s the difference between this and people claiming different gender identities than their DNA demonstrates? Not one thing. Either one embraces both Caitlyn Jenner and Rachel Dolezal, rejects them both, or sets up a cognitive dissonance that will become truly epic between identity groups.
 
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Well of course that's legitimate. It's all only about what race and sex and heritage one feels that matters. That's why Huong Nguyen from Hanoi is going to be Italian from now on and I'm sure that special few of our own will join in the call to accept his Italian ancestry along with his choice to use women's restrooms and locker rooms.
 

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I edited the above and pulled your quote out as the end.
I only wish that she'd declared herself to be Tashawana. Or something.

But as for comparing her to transgendered peoples, they're bioth denying reality. However, that question was quickly addressed by the transgenderites.

"There is no comparison between transgender people and Rachel Dolezal. Transgender people are just being themselves when they transition."

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What a hoot.
 

JohnWC

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What blank blank differance does it make let's all just be Americans you get t h e job because your the best one for the price to do it
 

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You are hereby sentenced to spend 6 weeks in close proximity with Janet Napolitano.
 

Pilgrim

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What blank blank differance does it make let's all just be Americans you get t h e job because your the best one for the price to do it
The difference is that falsely claiming to be a minority is perpetrating a fraud for material benefits given by the govt to certain minorities - i.e. Affirmative Action - regardless of their practical experience and/or qualifications. However, this is no big deal to the left; Rachel Dolezal's claim appears to be no different than that of Sen. Elizabeth Warren - part Cherokee:rolleyes:, darling of the radically liberal Democrats and likely presidential candidate.
 

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The biggest bs of all is that a white liberal falsely claiming to be black can get a job and advancement with the NAACP much more easily than a highly qualified black conservative.
 

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The most disturbing element in this story is the race harassment / hate crimes that she has claimed. They appear to be bogus.
Curious about the motive behind doing that. To garner sympathy and publicity by doing some sick minority victim role playing for job opportunities and career advancement?
On the down low. None of this would probably have come out if not for Dolezal faked a hate crime.

Kurt Neumaier has served as an alternate board member or former full member of the task force since 2001. He said he had suspicions about alleged hate crimes that Dolezal has reported to police in Coeur d’Alene and Spokane, and said he was concerned that the decision of the task force and Human Rights Education Institute to hire her was done without proper vetting and checking into claims about her background.

Also this week, Spokane police files on Dolezal’s report that she received a hate mail package and other mailing in late February and March were released. Police records say the initial package Dolezal reported receiving did not bear a date stamp or bar code, which Dolezal herself told police when she reported it. Investigators interviewed postal workers, who said it was either very unlikely or impossible that the package could have been processed through the post office, and that the only other alternative was that it had been put there by someone with a key.

Fake hate crimes. They always get exposed sooner or later.

Neumaier said he was suspicious of several incidents Dolezal reported in Coeur d’Alene, including her discovery of a swastika on the door of the Human Rights Education Institute when the organization’s security camera was “mysteriously turned off.”

He said that after Dolezal left the institute and he saw her gaining prominence in Spokane – becoming head of the NAACP, chairman of the police ombudsman oversight commission, teaching at Eastern Washington University, and speaking frequently in public on racism and justice issues – that he became worried that there might be “blowback” for the institute for not doing a better job of vetting her.

They should have gone public back in 2010 when these claims were being made.

While she was education director, Dolezal, who is multiracial, said she was the victim of racial harassment, slurs and threats against her and her son by white supremacists.

On two occasions she reported finding hangman’s nooses tied to her garage’s rafters, and a swastika sticker on the door of the institute, The Spokesman-Review has reported.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2015/dgreenfield/naacp-leader-exposed-as-white-after-faking-hate-crime/
 

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The most disturbing element in this story is the race harassment / hate crimes that she has claimed. They appear to be bogus.
Curious about the motive behind doing that. To garner sympathy and publicity by doing some sick minority victim role playing for job opportunities and career advancement?
Apparently she has a lengthy history of identifying with blacks, and as being black herself. One way to reinforce that, even in her own mind, is to make herself a victim of the exact racism that blacks experience. White's don't get that kind of racism, so others seeing her be a victim of it will cement her as being black in her and in their minds.

She's seriously mentally disturbed.
 
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If she has portrayed herself as 'black' for the purpose of tangible advantage [affirmative action, etc], that is a criminal matter - but what I read, is that she has never done that. She certainly feels more comfortable with blacks, [or equally so], but she has an adopted brother who is black. She was recently granted custody of him, due to her [white] parents' failure to provide any other black people for him to associate with, or learn from. Don't adoptive parents have a responsibility to foster the learning of each child's own heritage, when it's different from their own? I think they do.
In any case, it was her parents who reported her to the NAACP, after they lost the custody battle. Sounds a lot like a domestic disagreement gone public.
 

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So I read the FrontPage article linked by Barkley, and wow - that one guy sure doesn't like her. It's all about his "concerns" and "suspicions", but not a squick of concrete evidence that she lied to anyone about anything. Maybe it is a mental illness, to pretend to be black, but if so, there's a whole lot of teens who do it every day too. They've adopted the culture, music, clothing, slang, and hairstyles of black people, so just where is the line drawn?
 

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I don't know anything about her brother yet. Is this adoptive brother a recent arrival from somewhere in Africa?
 

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There's all kinds of different stories about her family and personal history, so it's hard to know whether she is sincerely wanting to help her black sibs [more than one, all adopted], but it doesn't appear that she's ever used her "ethnicity" for gain - at least, not in a way that would be illegal. The NAACP says it makes no difference, whites can help advance them as well as blacks, and they are right, I think. If she wants to, why not?
She says her ancestry is mixed, and in some sense, isn't that true for nearly all of us? I mean, if we go back far enough, who knows what might have been kept from public knowledge, when it wasn't advantageous to be other than WASP?
This is a domestic dispute gone public, is all, but it does raise some interesting questions about having mixed heritage. Do you get to choose which predominates?
 

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If she has portrayed herself as 'black' for the purpose of tangible advantage [affirmative action, etc], that is a criminal matter - but what I read, is that she has never done that.
Well, she is the chairperson of the Spokane Citizen Police Ombudsmen Commission, a salaried position of which one on the commission must be a minority. Her application stated African-American. Her position as an adjunct professor is part of the Affirmative Action program. Her application lists African-American. And it's a lock that the NCAACP didn't make her the head of the Spokane chapter because they thought she was white.

She certainly feels more comfortable with blacks, [or equally so], but she has an adopted brother who is black. She was recently granted custody of him, due to her [white] parents' failure to provide any other black people for him to associate with, or learn from.
Well, it was in 2010. And she gained custody because she alleged her parents abused him (Izaiah). There were 3 other adopted black kids in the family, none of whom agree with the abuse charges. The kid filed for emancipate from his adopted parents. The petition for emancipation was dropped, and in a separate legal action in 2010, the court appointed Rachel Dolezal to be the adopted brother's guardian with the consent of Ruthanne and Lawrence Dolezal.

But not having other black people for him to associate with or learn from is sooo not gonna be a reason over which someone will lost custody. White people adopt black babies all the time. One brother stated that Rachel had turned Izaiah into a more militant black racist and that's why in the emancipation he stated that he wanted to live with his sister where he could be around more black people.

Don't adoptive parents have a responsibility to foster the learning of each child's own heritage, when it's different from their own? I think they do.
No, the don't have that responsibility, because the parents are the child's heritage, their culture becomes his cultural heritage, as well. Parents who adopt a Laotian baby can't very well foster the learning of Laotian culture from a home in Salina, Kansas, and a white family in Montana can't visit The Hood once a week to show their adopted black kids the benefits of crack and no money.

In any case, it was her parents who reported her to the NAACP, after they lost the custody battle. Sounds a lot like a domestic disagreement gone public.
I dunno. I haven't read where they reported her to the NAACP. The custody battle ended in 2010 and she was elected to the NAACP chapter last year. The parents say that hadn't really spoken to anyone about their daughter until they were contacted by a reporter from Spokane.
 
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There's all kinds of different stories about her family and personal history, so it's hard to know whether she is sincerely wanting to help her black sibs [more than one, all adopted], but it doesn't appear that she's ever used her "ethnicity" for gain - at least, not in a way that would be illegal. The NAACP says it makes no difference, whites can help advance them as well as blacks, and they are right, I think. If she wants to, why not?
I love the NAACP's response. "One's racial identity is not a qualifying criteria or disqualifying standard for NAACP leadership." What else are the gonna say? "We don't want Whitey in charge of our NAACP," and then fire her? Can you imagine the racial discrimination howl we'd hear if that happened?

One's racial identity is not a qualifying or disqualifying criteria, nor is apparently honesty or integrity, or, sanity.

She says her ancestry is mixed, and in some sense, isn't that true for nearly all of us? I mean, if we go back far enough, who knows what might have been kept from public knowledge, when it wasn't advantageous to be other than WASP?
No, it's not true for nearly all of us. When asked if her parents were black, she actually said, "That question is not as easy as it seems. There’s a lot of complexities … and I don’t know that everyone would understand that. We’re all from the African continent." Her birth certificate shows exactly who she is, and it ain't black.

This is a domestic dispute gone public, is all, but it does raise some interesting questions about having mixed heritage. Do you get to choose which predominates?
Sure you can. You can choose whatever you want. The Census now even includes a check box for Mixed. But you can choose any race you want to be, or any gender, for that matter.
 
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