Tranny Trubs

layoutshooter

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We started having problems with our tranny It was dropping out of gear on hills when we were going slow. We have a 2006 M2112 with a Eaton-Fuller 10sp auto-shift with 204000 miles. After causing a REALLY cool traffic jam near Hayward CA we talked with Eaton and they seemed to think it was an electrical problem. We limped it up to the Freightliner in Sacramento. They found multiple low voltage codes when the hooked up the machine. They cleaned and replaced all the battery conections and replaced several pin connectors on the tranny. They road tested it and then hooked it up to the machine. No more codes. Cost to repair was $477. Now I have to learn how to avoid this. Not sure what I can do to stop the pin connectors from getting salt on them. I don't even know where they are, BUT, all is well and we will be going back in service a day sooner than we had hoped to. Layoutshooter
 

greg334

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We started having problems with our tranny It was dropping out of gear on hills when we were going slow. We have a 2006 M2112 with a Eaton-Fuller 10sp auto-shift with 204000 miles. After causing a REALLY cool traffic jam near Hayward CA we talked with Eaton and they seemed to think it was an electrical problem. We limped it up to the Freightliner in Sacramento. They found multiple low voltage codes when the hooked up the machine. They cleaned and replaced all the battery conections and replaced several pin connectors on the tranny. They road tested it and then hooked it up to the machine. No more codes. Cost to repair was $477. Now I have to learn how to avoid this. Not sure what I can do to stop the pin connectors from getting salt on them. I don't even know where they are, BUT, all is well and we will be going back in service a day sooner than we had hoped to. Layoutshooter

I am assuming that they are using Packard weather pack or Hirschmann connectors (connectors that are supposed to be sealed with a rubber booty thing). If so, the problem is that the seals on the connectors may be bad, both on the wire end and boot end. Delphi who makes the Packard connectors don't recommend any sealant or grease to be used on the connectors themselves and unless you know the application specifically, using something may effect the signals to the computer.

But with that said, I would think using GE silicone sealant (or adhesive) will solve some of, if not all the problems. If you use it on the base of the connector, it should be good, just wear gloved (medical gloves) when you work with this stuff. Put some on the base where the wires are and push it through the wires a bit, let it dry 12 hours and it should work.
 

layoutshooter

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That might help Greg, I will have to wait until spring to try to work on that. It would not be fun crawling around in the ground at home right now. Layoutshooter
 

ATeam

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We had a somewhat similar episode recently with our ZF Meritor 12 speed transmission. As in your case it was not so much a transmission problem as an electrical one.

Driving the truck in snow and slop, we lost the automatic function on the transmission. It kept working fine, but we had to shift it manually.

Since we were passing through the area and had time, we went to our home Volvo dealer, the dealer that sold us the truck, VoMac Truck Sales in New Haven, IN, near Fort Wayne. These guys are fantastic and we get as much truck work done there as is practical to do.

The codes indicated a bad ABS sensor on a rear wheel. When one goes bad, the transmission is designed to go into manual mode, which it did.

A lesser mechanic would have replaced the sensor and sent us on our way. That did not happen. Our VoMac mechanic tested the sensor and found it to be good. He then went on to inspect the wiring and connections, and found a wire that had broken. The bad news was that it broke just where it led into a molded connector. To fix it right, the harness would have to be replaced. They did not have one in stock but could get one overnight.

That worked out perfect for us. I was on my way with the truck from home (MN) to Ohio for some training at FedEx Custom Critical. Diane was flying there to meet me, staying home for a dental appointment before that. After training, we were planning to drive to Milwaukee for a family event. A Saturday morning stop back at VoMac would be easily worked in.

I was surprised to learn that the little wire way in the back of the truck was part of a harness that reached all the way to the front. It was all one big and expensive piece (see photo) that would require three hours of labor to replace.

The good news was that with a 19 month old truck and 200,000+ miles, the repair was covered under warranty. Our VoMac friends believed the wire broke because of a manufacturing defect. Whoever put the harness on on the line, put just enough too much bend in the harness before he or she tied it into place. (Just enough too much bend... that's a technical term :)).

A lesser dealer would not have gone to the trouble to convince Volvo of that and fight on our behalf to make this a warranty repair. We bought extended warranty coverage when we bought the truck. It was some of the best money we have ever spent.

By Saturday noon, we were on our way to a family event and into service after that.

With your Eaton issue, if it acts up again, it may turn out to be not the connections that were wise to clean, but a wire in the harness that may act up sometimes and sometimes not. Ours was an intermitent problem coincident with wet weather before the partially broken wire was diagnosed.

Let me close with a plug for VoMac Truck Sales. Again, these guys are great. Volvo extended warranty service has been fantastic too. It gives us great comfort to know we have five years of it in effect from the truck purchase date.
 

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layoutshooter

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Yes Phil, Those wiring things can be a REAL pain in the patooty. These guys at Freightliner in Sacramento did NOT try to push stuff on me that I did not need. They just fixed what was not working. Kinda nice to be be ripped off. Layoutshooter
 
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