Tractor trailer illegal U turn kills teen

[bobwg]

Upstate New York as a tractor trailer was making illegal U turn on 4 lane state highway a teen on motorcycle crashed into the tractor trailer killing the teen. A ticket was issued to the truck driver and further charges may be issued after further investigation and pending drug test results

 

[EasyDoesIt]

What a shame that someone had to die because of stupid, illegal act. Go to the next exit and flip. Might be 20 miles but it is safe and legal.

 

[Monty]

I'm certain it was not murder, as in "he killed" him, it very well may be vehicular manslaugter.

Secondly, I saw stupid acts, (still do), all the time. Being aware of your surroundings, such as seeing a truck blocking the roadway might fall on your shoulders.

 

[piattteam]

That is why you aren't allowed to make u-turns, through the median.
These spots are always clearly marked for use by emergency and authorized vehicles.
Agree with "go to the next exit"!!!!!

 

[BigCat]

How do we even know it was illegal u turn? Many state and us highways have the turn around spot where it Is legal to uturn.

Besides that how do you not see truck doing this? I say boy was riding to fast but ya see they won't publish that only the trucker was doing illegal uturn.


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[jaminjim]

We know because the Trucker was ticketed for making an illegal u-turn.



Friends mourn Lysander motorcycle crash victim - YNN, Your News Now

LYSANDER, N.Y. -- "He just put his heart and soul into everything he did, you know"
It was a somber scene Sunday evening, as loved ones gathered to remember the short life of Joseph Rogala, 19. "Joey was always over the top, he was outgoing, it was just his passion, above and beyond," said friend Kurt McArdell.
Rogala died after striking the side of a tractor trailer on 690 North just before 3:00 am on Sunday. Police said the truck was driving the wrong way down 690, and was attempting to make a U-turn when the accident happened.
Brendan Grunder grew up with Rogala. "We all went to school together, grew up together, anything we would ever do we would be together, and I've been riding with him every day until now."
The tractor trailer driver was not injured, but was issued tickets. As for Rogala, friends said it was no secret he liked to live life on the edge.
"When it comes to some things he would be afraid to do it, I know he's afraid of heights, he couldn't simply climb a tree or that sign right there, but if he wants to get on his bike and do 150 miles an hour, he'll do it without a problem," said friend Tyler Cook.
Police have not said how fast Rogala was going, but his friends hope his death can serve as a wake up call. "For me, I'm slowing down, for my friends, if they don't slow down, they're not riding with me," said Cook.
It's a lesson that no one wants to learn the hard way, and a void this group can never fill.
The driver of the tractor trailer was issued three tickets. He is scheduled to appear in Lysander town court to answer those citations on August 7th.

 

[moose]

OP, where's the link ? or did you made it up ?
& why do i needs to do all the Googling around here ?

Lysander teen, 19, dies in motorcycle vs. tractor-trailer crash on Route 690 in Lysander | syracuse.com

 

[moose]

What a shame that someone had to die because of stupid, illegal act. Go to the next exit and flip. Might be 20 miles but it is safe and legal.

Kind of hard to do when you drive on the wrong side of the Hwy !
this is not a bad U-turn crash, it is a vehicle driving the wrong way on a Hwy. adding one mistake to another.
we must ask ourselves, what was he doing driving the wrong way to begin with, which was the original rezone for the accident,
and what WE can learn from it . to insure this will not happened to any of us .

 

[jaminjim]

I'm certain it was not murder, as in "he killed" him, it very well may be vehicular manslaugter.

Secondly, I saw stupid acts, (still do), all the time. Being aware of your surroundings, such as seeing a truck blocking the roadway might fall on your shoulders.

Or seeing a motorcycle coming in the opposite direction, especially if you are currently driving down the wrong side of a divided highway preparing to block three or four lanes while breaking yet another law by performing the u-turn.

 

[BigCat]

Jamminjim I guess you don't see where it states his friend said he doesn't hesitate to run 150 mile per hour. Last time I checked that too is illegal. The driver made a mistake and tried to correct it. We do not know the speed of the kid on the bike but I'll certainly bet he was way over speed limit.

So look at it like that. Both were possibly breaking the law and an unfortunate accident resulted from it.


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[Turtle]

If you're driving down the wrong side of a highway, why would you do a U-turn across the median to drive down the other wrong side of the highway?

I'm not sure of the driver of the motorcycle is entirely blameless. According to his friends, he liked to live life on the edge and liked to go too fast on his bike.

 

[ATeam]

It's way too early to draw any conclusions about this accident. The investigation is not yet complete. Receiving a citation does not mean the driver is guilty of the violation. All we have to go on at this point is news reports and we have no way of knowing if they are accurate. Did the reporter get it right when he or she said "north?" What is meant exactly by "four lane?"

It is a natural human instinct to fill in the blanks when only part of the story is known but doing so at this point is premature.

The most recent expedite fatality that I know of was that FedEx Custom Critical team-driven ER-unit that crashed into a bridge. The driver was killed. Do we know what happened there? How easy then was it to speculate about the cause ... driver asleep, mechanical failure, dispatch abuse, distracted by Qualcomm, cell phone use, road hazard, unidentified vehicle also involved but not found, swerve to avoid deer distracting flash of light, unqualified driver, HOS violation, etc., etc., etc.?

It is so easy to hear just a few details about a crash and then form opinions out of the blue and assign blame. People do it all the time and they'll do it to you if you are involved in a serious wreck where an investigation will take a while to complete.

But consider that FedEx crash. Has anyone mentioned it in recent months? Has it been in the news lately? The investigation was completed long ago but what did it say? No one in the general public follows up on stories like these. People just like to fill in the blanks and chat away.

Best, I think, to resist the temptation to form opinions about other people's crashes until the facts are known.

 

[BigCat]

Also if he was going the wrong direction wouldnt doing a u turn keep him going in the wrong direction?


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[moose]

What is meant exactly by "four lane?" .

Looking on the Map, Interstate 390 in that area, heading North,
there is an large River over pass, (south of which belong to another county & city.)
then there is one interstate interchange, (very close)
on the very north side of the interchange, the interstate becomes a divided 4 lane Hwy,
then about half a mile up, there is an emergency/ police/plow turn around.
then about half a mile up, the Junction with Church Rd. which is a stop light
from that point north, it is a 2 lane rd.
according to the news report, the motorcycle was heading north. so i'd betchy'a he was wheeling the bridge at 2:45Am.

 

[jaminjim]

Jamminjim I guess you don't see where it states his friend said he doesn't hesitate to run 150 mile per hour. Last time I checked that too is illegal. The driver made a mistake and tried to correct it. We do not know the speed of the kid on the bike but I'll certainly bet he was way over speed limit.

So look at it like that. Both were possibly breaking the law and an unfortunate accident resulted from it.


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Sure I saw it, I read the article and posted it in it's entirety. It wouldn't surprise me that the kid was blazing up the road at over 150 mph, but what we know is that the truck was going the wrong way and attempting to do an illegal u-turn. What we don't know is the speed of the bike. Just because the wreck involved a truck does not mean we can blame the media.

 

[bobwg]

Hey Moose I did not provide link because I heard the story on the local radio station up here in New York so quit your crying about having to google the story

 

[bobwg]

By the way latest update on local radio is the prosecuting attorney is waiting for drug results and police to finish checking the drivers records, logs, etc

 

[moose]

Well Bob, thanks for posting this, it gave me something to do while looking for a load.
the problem is, without a link, all we have to work with is the OP opinion, heck from reading the topic of this thread, one can assumed that the teen was killed by a stupid trucker, which was what posters here rightly said without a news story.
as it turns out, there's enough blame to spread around.
one toxicology test of the rider - and the trucker might be cleared to drive another day.

 

[Moot]

If you're driving down the wrong side of a highway, why would you do a U-turn across the median to drive down the other wrong side of the highway?

The truck driver may have realized he was going the wrong way on a divided highway and was performing a K-turn rather than a U-turn.

 

[jelliott]

The truck driver may have realized he was going the wrong way on a divided highway and was performing a K-turn rather than a U-turn.

Very possible. We need to remember when the media reports these kind of things, they are very often not well versed on terms, laws, and how trucks even operate at times.