Tonight's debate: Newt Gingrich/Wolf Blitzer

[aristotle]

At 8pm tonight, CNN will televise the latest GOP debate. I, for one, hope Newt Gingrich lights in on CNN's Wolf Blitzer like a Roman candle. Too many candidates take abuse and innuendo from these so-called debate moderators. Wolf Blitzer may be in for a surprise if he tries his junk with Newt.

 

[layoutshooter]

I want to be a moderator in the Presidential debates. I would love a chance to "vet" Obama. OH what fun that would be! Ole Barry would find out the difference between softball and hardball.

 

[chefdennis]

Newt has taken on the media in each debate, I don't think this one will be any different....LOL, and the commentaors have not been able to even hold a candle to Newt when he "lit" them up...

 

[aristotle]

I want to be a moderator in the Presidential debates. I would love a chance to "vet" Obama. OH what fun that would be! Ole Barry would find out the difference between softball and hardball.

Obama doesn't make himself available to unscripted interviews. Give him a difficult question and he would be wailing like a sinner on his first day in Hell.

 

[layoutshooter]

Obama doesn't make himself available to unscripted interviews. Give him a difficult question and he would be wailing like a sinner on his first day in Hell.

He is truly a coward. He could not handle a real question.

 

[layoutshooter]

Obama doesn't make himself available to unscripted interviews. Give him a difficult question and he would be wailing like a sinner on his first day in Hell.

He is truly a coward. He could not handle a real question.

 

[muttly]

You can say that again.

 

[greg334]

Listening to the debate last night, I was struck on how Gingrich was not the man for the job. Just his immigration position nearly made me vomit.

Remember this was a guy who helped us into this situation, he was the guy who didn't complete the contract with America and if I remember right the one who was ousted by the republicans in the house.

He may be able to win a debate with obama or someone in the lineup for the nomination but performance has more to do with it than debating.

 

[aristotle]

I was able to watch about 90% of last night's debate and it seemed all the candidates acquitted themselves fairly well. Surprisingly, Wolf Blitzer didn't hijack the debate with his own bias.

As things stand now, it appears Mitt Romney is still slightly favored to win the GOP nomination. I believe Newt Gingrich is the strongest rival to challenge Romney based on experience and gravitas. Folks will have to decide for themselves if Newt's messy past should be set aside. Romney has the money and is racking up major endorsements from Republican politicians, past and present. I am not aware of any major political figure who has publicly endorsed Newt.

As a conservative, I cannot bring myself to get on board with Mitt Romney just yet. If he wins the nomination, I like millions of others, will hold my nose and pull the lever for the GOP. Romney is much better than having Obama in office. But then, Newt is better than Romney. As is Perry, Bachmann, and several others. Unless conservatives gravitate to Newt pretty quickly, we are stuck with Romney. Disappointing, indeed.

 

[greg334]

Romney isn't even close to being better than Obama, they are still marginal politicians and still both liberals. Many think that Romney can pull a victory off but I don't see it happening at all.

Gingrich has a long way to mend fences, whether he is considered a conservative or not doesn't matter, what matters is his past of being part of the problem is still something that he can't correct and his personal life is meaningless as much as it is for Obama. His answers in the debates are still meaningless, his ability to fight Obama in the election will be a hard fight - more so because of his past.

There is still others in that group, which by all accounts may surprise people in this race.

 

[aristotle]

Romney isn't even close to being better than Obama, they are still marginal politicians and still both liberals. Many think that Romney can pull a victory off but I don't see it happening at all.

Gingrich has a long way to mend fences, whether he is considered a conservative or not doesn't matter, what matters is his past of being part of the problem is still something that he can't correct and his personal life is meaningless as much as it is for Obama. His answers in the debates are still meaningless, his ability to fight Obama in the election will be a hard fight - more so because of his past.

There is still others in that group, which by all accounts may surprise people in this race.

Is there a surprise candidate in the GOP field? It's getting a little late to build momentum as voting in Iowa starts in less than six weeks. After Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina come quickly. Some conservative, very likely Newt, will pose as the most serious threat to Romney's ascension.

 

[davekc]

Starting to look like the republicans are going to be choosing between Newt or Romney. I don't see the others getting traction fast enough to be a contender except for Cain, and he is dropping right now. Once the media goes after Gingrich, he would be the closest to advance because he is third now and Gingrich has been getting his support from the Cain & Perry defectors.

 

[dieseldiva]

Romney isn't even close to being better than Obama, they are still marginal politicians and still both liberals. Many think that Romney can pull a victory off but I don't see it happening at all.

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No......... Romney is a liberal Republican, Obama is a Marxist...... big difference.


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[tbubster]

I dont see Newts past really getting in the way for most voters.He has been around for a long time his past has been out there for all to see for a long time.

In 08 lets not forget the primaries were all over the place.Huckabee won in Iowa and at one point with Romney led in total delegates.yet we know McCain would go on to get the nod.

A few things about Newt that many dont relize.

He was nevr fired although this is the belife.This is also what most all liberal media outlets keep saying.Fact is he resigned not just from speaker but from the house as well after the republicans took a beating in th election.There was an attempt the year befor he was threatend with we will vote you out he called their bluff and the man leading the charge bill paxon would go on to to resign just five days later.

Contract with America,Perhaps the best thing about the contract was that the only things in it were issues that had the support of 60% of the american people.Imagine that congress addressing issues that 60% of the american people felt needed to be delt with.The biggest part of this contract was just a promise to bring issues to a vote on the house floor which they did all ten of them.There were 8 things that were in the contract that were promised to become law.some of it was passed some of it was not some of it that was passed and got the all mighty veto from bill clinton.Its funny when the contract is talked about people only seem to remember newt and not the other six who helped write it.Heck some people think Newt wrote the contract himself.This is not true however he just helped write it.

Government shutdown.He gets blamed for this like it was a bad thing.Yet he still got re-elected after the shut down.When it comes down to it it was clinton that shut it down he was givin a bill that would have kept the government running yet did not like the changes in the medicare which would have raised the premiums,Clinton wanted them to be lowered.One of the other amendments in the bill would have barred clinton from borrowing from the government trust funds to help pay for other government programs.Which we all know is what clinton did to make it look like there was a surplus when bush took office.Yes Newt said some things that made him look bad and get most of the blame for the shut down but again he was still re-elected.

Myself I dont see Romney getting on the ticket.He is to liberal for most republicans.When it comes down to it I dont think most republicans can get past the Massachusetts health care insurance reform law.It really is to much like Obamacare.I like Newt I also like Cain.Who knows maybe a Newt/Cain ticket.

 

[greg334]

I dont see Newts past really getting in the way for most voters.He has been around for a long time his past has been out there for all to see for a long time.

I do, his political past is very important because when he was speaker, it was when Clinton got a lot of things passed in congress which led us to this point.

In 08 lets not forget the primaries were all over the place.Huckabee won in Iowa and at one point with Romney led in total delegates.yet we know McCain would go on to get the nod.

True but also people in the party knew that if McCain made it through the primary process, they would have loss to any democrat.

A few things about Newt that many dont relize.

What? He should have stuck to writing fictional history?

He was nevr fired although this is the belife.

Yep he surely was in the sense that he lost the confidence of the party and the members of the house he led. It may surprise everyone that the speaker today led the coup to oust Newty.

This is also what most all liberal media outlets keep saying.

So I'll tell you who reminded me, this guy called Rush. He may be part of the liberal media but he did say Newt's not the guy.

Fact is he resigned not just from speaker but from the house as well after the republicans took a beating in th election.

Nope he didn't, the arrogant idiot, but should have.

There was an attempt the year befor he was threatend with we will vote you out he called their bluff and the man leading the charge bill paxon would go on to to resign just five days later.

It also included Dick Armey and the present Speaker and there is a lot more to the story.

Contract with America,Perhaps the best thing about the contract was that the only things in it were issues that had the support of 60% of the american people.Imagine that congress addressing issues that 60% of the american people felt needed to be delt with.The biggest part of this contract was just a promise to bring issues to a vote on the house floor which they did all ten of them.There were 8 things that were in the contract that were promised to become law.some of it was passed some of it was not some of it that was passed and got the all mighty veto from bill clinton.Its funny when the contract is talked about people only seem to remember newt and not the other six who helped write it.Heck some people think Newt wrote the contract himself.This is not true however he just helped write it.

It was a dismal failure because irregardless if it fulfilled the promise of it made, it failed to ensure that the reublicans in congress actually understood the need for it but more importantly forced them to act conservative without compromising in order to give Clinton what he wanted while getting what they wanted. This to me and many others was the start of the exact problems we have - lessen oversight with a relaxing regulations in order to please specific groups.

Government shutdown.He gets blamed for this like it was a bad thing.Yet he still got re-elected after the shut down.

He got reelected by the people of his district, nothing more. The shutdown was a good thing by the way and had little to do with him but more to do with the same divisiveness we have today. To be exact, our present congress is a reflection of the same compromising congress of the 90's but with one added feature - they are more concern with the politics than the country.

When it comes down to it it was clinton that shut it down he was givin a bill that would have kept the government running yet did not like the changes in the medicare which would have raised the premiums,Clinton wanted them to be lowered.

Well I guess you can blame it on clinton but I would have rather seen Medicare being limited instead of expanded when the republican congress later on.

One of the other amendments in the bill would have barred clinton from borrowing from the government trust funds to help pay for other government programs.Which we all know is what clinton did to make it look like there was a surplus when bush took office.

Not exactly.

The projected surplus had little to do with any "trust fund" which doesn't exist in the first place. The projected surplus depended on the tech bubble continuing and when 1998 ended, it was obvious that the only thing that was going to sustain was a two fold financial boom in the tech sector - the over inflated stocks like pets.com and so on and the Y2K catchup. Coupled with the fact that Clinton and the OBM claimed there was a budget surplus, the republican congress went on a spending spear until 2006. By the time the election of 2000 rolled around, any projected surplus vanished and they were again borrowing more to keep going.

Yes Newt said some things that made him look bad and get most of the blame for the shut down but again he was still re-elected.

He said something last night about immigration enforcement that p*ssed me off, so he lost my vote.

Myself I dont see Romney getting on the ticket.He is to liberal for most republicans.When it comes down to it I dont think most republicans can get past the Massachusetts health care insurance reform law.It really is to much like Obamacare.I like Newt I also like Cain.Who knows maybe a Newt/Cain ticket.

I see Romney getting the nod from the party, he is liberal and he fits the mold of the party. BUT I also think that republicans missed the boat on Obama care and we are stuck with it unless the courts do the right thing.

 

[aristotle]

Newt's latest approach to the immigration problem seems reasonable. Reality dictates a pathway to legal status must be found for those individuals and families who have been living in the USA for 20 or 30 years, regardless of where they came from or how they got here. By and large, at least along our southern border, these are the indigenous people of North America. They were here 10,000 years before boundaries were drawn. Basic human decency demands they be treated with dignity.

 

[greg334]

Newt's latest approach to the immigration problem seems reasonable. Reality dictates a pathway to legal status must be found for those individuals and families who have been living in the USA for 20 or 30 years, regardless of where they came from or how they got here. By and large, at least along our southern border, these are the indigenous people of North America. They were here 10,000 years before boundaries were drawn. Basic human decency demands they be treated with dignity.

Nope we are a nation of laws, not of "well seeing you've been here for 23 years, its alright" nation.

When we adjust the laws for one group based on their need to be here, we need to do that for all. When we consider that some laws are not as important as others, we lose sight of what we are.

The best and most humane thing to do is to enforce the law, not worry about when they came here or how they came here.

I also don't buy the family thing for a second. The person who brought their family over knew they were breaking the law, they knew by the very nature of sneaking across the border that they put themselves and others they brought in harms way by doing it. While this sounds like it is something that we need to concern ourselves with, we need to understand that we break up families everyday in this country through the courts and through things like family protective services - EVEN when there is no need or proof that there is a need. Until we start understanding that the law matters more, we will still have a skewed way of looking at things.

I have to ask, why is it alright to take a kid away from a family when there is an allegation of abuse with not a shred of proof but it is alright to allow a family to stay intact while the parents and children committed a crime against everyone in the country?

 

[aristotle]

Greg... we as a nation had better learn to make peace with the immigration troubles in this country. There are perhaps 10 million people in the United States, right now, who entered illegally. They aren't leaving and we are not going to round them up. They are human beings. It is in our long term interest to integrate them into our society. We will be a better nation for it.

Sometimes, the law is an azz. Our immigration laws do not work and are generally ignored. The history of Man is a history of migration. The dynamics of human migration will not be stopped by words written in some dusty law book resting on a shelf in Washington, DC.

 

[tbubster]

I do, his political past is very important because when he was speaker, it was when Clinton got a lot of things passed in congress which led us to this point. Many of the problems that have come from the clinton years are from befor newts time.Nafta was befor newts time as SOH,The GLB ACT was after newts time.Those are just two of the biggest reasons we face what we do today.Newt push welfare reform three times though the house the first two were vetoed because they required people to work for the help they got.because it put caps on how long they could collect.Also cut the have more babys get more money out of the game.



True but also people in the party knew that if McCain made it through the primary process, they would have loss to any democrat. Really,They knew with McCain they would lose so they give him the nod anyway



What? He should have stuck to writing fictional history?thats funny right there.



Yep he surely was in the sense that he lost the confidence of the party and the members of the house he led. It may surprise everyone that the speaker today led the coup to oust Newty.
Wrong paxon led the charge also it was over a year before newt left.


So I'll tell you who reminded me, this guy called Rush. He may be part of the liberal media but he did say Newt's not the guy. I dont listen to Rush.Do alot of voters yep do they all agree with Rush nope.Whats your point?



Nope he didn't, the arrogant idiot, but should have. Check you facts GREG yes he did a full year after the attempted outster.



It also included Dick Armey and the present Speaker and there is a lot more to the story. Again whats your point fact its they failed at what they tried to do.



It was a dismal failure because irregardless if it fulfilled the promise of it made, it failed to ensure that the reublicans in congress actually understood the need for it but more importantly forced them to act conservative without compromising in order to give Clinton what he wanted while getting what they wanted. This to me and many others was the start of the exact problems we have - lessen oversight with a relaxing regulations in order to please specific groups.Some of it failed some did not.I have said befor there has to be compromise.When there are two different partys one in controll of congress the other in the white house there just has to be.This to me and many others was the start of the exact problems we have - lessen oversight with a relaxing regulations in order to please specific groups So one of the problems we have is not enough regulations?Really WOW!




He got reelected by the people of his district, nothing more. The shutdown was a good thing by the way and had little to do with him but more to do with the same divisiveness we have today. To be exact, our present congress is a reflection of the same compromising congress of the 90's but with one added feature - they are more concern with the politics than the country. Whats you point Obama had only been elected by one district untill he ran for president.The simple fact is he was on a nantional level while he was SOH.



Well I guess you can blame it on clinton but I would have rather seen Medicare being limited instead of expanded when the republican congress later on. You are right I can and I do.Newt wanted the people on Medicare to pay more clinton wanted less.



Not exactly.

The projected surplus had little to do with any "trust fund" which doesn't exist in the first place. The projected surplus depended on the tech bubble continuing and when 1998 ended, it was obvious that the only thing that was going to sustain was a two fold financial boom in the tech sector - the over inflated stocks like pets.com and so on and the Y2K catchup. Coupled with the fact that Clinton and the OBM claimed there was a budget surplus, the republican congress went on a spending spear until 2006. By the time the election of 2000 rolled around, any projected surplus vanished and they were again borrowing more to keep going.
Really?Tech boom is how clinton made it look like there was a surplus.Thats a new one to me.Y2K?Funny if one does there research they see that it was bill clinton that used the Social security trust fund to make it look like he left a surplus.So what they did up till 2006 effected what happend in 2000?Thats kinda like Obama saying a march in 1965 is the reason his parents got together and was born.Even though Obama was born in 1961.


He said something last night about immigration enforcement that p*ssed me off, so he lost my vote.jsut by you calling him this arrogant idiot, Kinda tells me he did not have your vote anyway. So what do you think a president should do then?At least he has a plan.You can buy into the hype that it is an open door but he did say that it would not go for those that have recently entered the country.Myself I say kick them all out.But thats not gonna happen now matter who is president.If you want to belive anyone of them that says they will round them up and send them packing you are going to be disappointed.



I see Romney getting the nod from the party, he is liberal and he fits the mold of the party. BUT I also think that republicans missed the boat on Obama care and we are stuck with it unless the courts do the right thing.

If he does get the nod I will vote for him but I dont think that is going to happen.Also how did the republicans miss the boat on Obama Care???They did not have the numbers to stop it.Every single Republican voted against the bill yet they missed the boat according to you.When republicans took controll of the house they voted to repeal the bill it was then sent to the senate controlled by democrats were it was killed.Would not have mattered any way as Obama said he would veto it.Yet you claim republicans missed the boat.They also tried to repeal it befor they took controll of the house two different bills neither bill was allowed to be heard by the then democrat controlled house at the time.The senate tried it once same thing there never heard.Yet you say the republicans missed the boat.

When Obama and Biden were running healthcare overhaul was looked at as a good thing.But as soon as it was made clear that there was going to be individual mandate the support was gone.Look at Romneys bill he push in mass.Has the same thing in it.This is why when it comes down to it it is going to be hard for him to get the nod.