Timing is everything!

tenntrucker

Expert Expediter
Had a midnite pickup at Goshen IN last nite, got there another hour early Had just got all set in the loading dock when here comes a FedEx CC truck in, it seems the load was double booked for midnite but a 3 am load was not. Since I was there first I got the load and FECC had to wait till 3 am, what a difference 15 min makes, lol

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lrtexpedite

Active Expediter
Had a midnite pickup at Goshen IN last nite, got there another hour early Had just got all set in the loading dock when here comes a FedEx CC truck in, it seems the load was double booked for midnite but a 3 am load was not. Since I was there first I got the load and FECC had to wait till 3 am, what a difference 15 min makes, lol

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I try to tell drivers that all the time , I have had they very thing happen before and yet i still don't understand why drivers with a midnight pick up wait till midnight to get there ?
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
I try to tell drivers that all the time , I have had they very thing happen before and yet i still don't understand why drivers with a midnight pick up wait till midnight to get there ?

Maybe the FDCC truck...

...was just coming back in service from home which was 10 minutes from the pickup, so there was no need or desire to get there an hour early.

...had a delivery such that there was just enough time to get to this, the next pick up.

...had a week so lucrative and so busy that a reset was necessary and it could not start driving until there was just enough time to get to the pickup.

...was a White Glove truck which generally does not arrive early because doing so can cause all kinds of ripples with the shipper and others involved in the load.

...would have been there an hour early but for a mechanical issue.

...was driven by a hobby expediter who is not in the business for the money and could care less if he or she got this load or the 3 a.m. load.

...etc., etc., etc.

If it was Diane and me getting ready to pick up midnight freight, we would get there as soon as we could, many hours early if possible, and then arrive at the pick up just a few minutes before midnight. A midnight pick up likely means an overnight run. We'd get what sleep we could to be ready for the next run after the midnight run.
 

lrtexpedite

Active Expediter
Maybe the FDCC truck...

...was just coming back in service from home which was 10 minutes from the pickup, so there was no need or desire to get there an hour early.

...had a delivery such that there was just enough time to get to this, the next pick up.

...had a week so lucrative and so busy that a reset was necessary and it could not start driving until there was just enough time to get to the pickup.

...was a White Glove truck which generally does not arrive early because doing so can cause all kinds of ripples with the shipper and others involved in the load.

...would have been there an hour early but for a mechanical issue.

...was driven by a hobby expediter who is not in the business for the money and could care less if he or she got this load or the 3 a.m. load.

...etc., etc., etc.

If it was Diane and me getting ready to pick up midnight freight, we would get there as soon as we could, many hours early if possible, and then arrive at the pick up just a few minutes before midnight. A midnight pick up likely means an overnight run. We'd get what sleep we could to be ready for the next run after the midnight run.

I agree i have seen so many driver wait till the last minute then get stuck in traffic and then are late to the pick up if your pick up is 14:00 and you wait till then your already late !
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
It can be tough. In many cases if we show up early the shipper is angry or there is no place to park. We once had a pick up in NYC. We were told CLEARLY not to show up early. SO, we left much later than we thought we should, hit bad traffic, did NOT make the pick up time. Not counted as late though, left on time and stayed on suggested routing. We got there to find out we COULD have parked INSIDE and been on time. You really never know.
 

lrtexpedite

Active Expediter
It can be tough. In many cases if we show up early the shipper is angry or there is no place to park. We once had a pick up in NYC. We were told CLEARLY not to show up early. SO, we left much later than we thought we should, hit bad traffic, did NOT make the pick up time. Not counted as late though, left on time and stayed on suggested routing. We got there to find out we COULD have parked INSIDE and been on time. You really never know.

At least if you show up your there and are on time , if they tell you to leave and come back in an hour we can mark you as in !
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
At least if you show up your there and are on time , if they tell you to leave and come back in an hour we can mark you as in !

OH you have NOT run into some of the shippers that we have. Some get down right NASTY if you show up early. One even called me a wordy dird once!
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
Just to be clear, lrtexpedite, when I say we get to the shipper several hours early if we can, I mean get to the area, not to the shipper's facility itself. As a general rule, we do not arrive early, except for a few minutes early so as to not be late.

That is because many of the shippers we serve are very precise about their pick up times. We have some that have the truck arrive first and then start preparing their freight in a process that may take several hours.

We have others that arrange crews of people to load, supervise, check, double check and handle the freight. When a shipper is bringing in a half dozen people to load freight, their schedules all matter and it is vital that the truck not show up early to screw up the rhythm. Sometimes the people who show up at the dock have flown in from other states.

Still others ship freight that are part of projects in which work is going on in several locations. They have check lists as do project members in other parts of the country. One of the items is the truck arriving for the pick up and maybe an inspection of the truck. If you arrive early, they have to deal with you out of sequence if for no other reason to tell you to go away or find you a place to park. Shippers like that do not like of interruption when a specific pick up time has been previously arranged for good reason.

I could list more such scenarios. The point is simply that in much of the White Glove work we do, arriving early is not a good thing, it can be a very bad thing. Experience has conditioned us to get close to the shipper hours and even days ahead of time when we can and to arrive just a few minutes before the pick up time.

For other expediters who serve other types of customers, it may make perfect sense to arrive an hour early or more as a matter of course. But as with so many other aspects of this business, one size does not fit all, and what is right for one may not be right for another.
 

tenntrucker

Expert Expediter
I like to arrive an hour early, but I ask dispatch if the time is a no later than or not before one, big deference.

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