This is kind of funny, if....

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
it weren't true....

im sure that alot of you have seen this, but i figured i'd post it anyhow, just to make the point...

Unemployment Nightmare - Got this in an email this morning

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John Smith started the day early having set his


Alarm clock

(MADE IN JAPAN ) for 6am.

While his Coffeepot

(MADE IN C H INA )

was perking, he shaved with his

Electric razor

(MADE IN TAIWAN ).

He put on a

Dress shirt

(MADE IN SRI LANKA )

Designer jeans

(MADE IN SINGAPORE )

and his

Tennis shoes

(MADE IN VIETNAM

After cooking his breakfast in his

Electric skillet

(MADE IN H ONG KONG )

And having his cup of Coffee

(MADE IN ECUADOR )

He sat down with his Calculator

(MADE IN MEXICO )

To see how much he could spend today.

After setting his Watch

(MADE IN SWITZERLAND )

to the Radio

(MADE IN JAPAN )

He got in his sports Car

(MADE IN GERMANY )

Filled it with Gas

(FROM SAUDI ARABIA)

and continued his search

for a good paying

AMERICAN JOB.

At the end

of yet another discouraging

and fruitless day of job searching,

he went home and checked his Computer

(MADE IN MALAYSIA )

for any new potential jobs.

John then decided to relax for a while

So he put on his Sandals

(MADE IN BRAZIL )

and his Robe

(MADE IN INDONESIA)

He poured himself a nice tall Glass

(MADE IN ITALY )

of Wine

(MADE IN FRANCE )

turned on his

BIG SCREEN TV

(MADE IN KOREA )

Turned on the Ceiling Fan

(MADE IN BURMA )

Settled into his Leather Couch

(MADE IN ARGENTINA )

And then wondered why he can't find

a good paying job in AMERICA.
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
You are right, SOME are still made here, but no where near what is made overseas. Wal mart just to name one sells more of them made overseas then made in america!! So i'd imagine more of them are made overseas then here.......Sad but true

As for a good pair of jeans, american made, take a look here:

http://www.pointerbrand.com/
 
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OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Man you musta been sittin just waiting to reply!!*LOL*

If one looks around there are U.S products.. a bit more money...but better qualilty.:rolleyes:
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
In the big picture of things ..does one really save money by buying cheap non US items when there is a choice??

I understand its an instant savings at the cash register....whats the long term results...

Was looking for a toaster....all made overseas...except one...made in Mexico...I chose that one....figured there just might be some components made here....

And if not then maybe a couple Mexicans will stay down there!!
 
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chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
OVM, no one will argue the fact that alot of if not all of those products are made here in this country. And no one will argue that they might be better in quality in alot od instances. But the fact is people will buy 2 of the cheap ones instead of 1 more expensive one, its how the masses are..so not only are the cheaper ones sold 1st, they are sold 2nd and 3rd and out pace the american made stuff in the 1st purchase allone, then add in the 2nd and 3rd, and we have lost the fight to stop the exporting of manufacturing.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Chef...I find it amazing...people will give thier life to defend this country...BUT spend 5-10 bucks more to save this country? :eek:
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
I totally agree. Those blue jeans I posted the link to, are more expensive, and they are a good product. The company is a small company and you can talk to the owner anytime, but most people have never heard of them.......
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
I totally agree. Those blue jeans I posted the link to, are more expensive, and they are a good product. The company is a small company and you can talk to the owner anytime, but most people have never heard of them.......

Same as them recycled T-shirts and hats...from old plastic bottles...polyester IS plastic! An ALL American outfit!!
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
I too would rather buy "made in America", but the sad truth is that it's too often not possible. When the profit is all that matters, the jobs go where the labor is cheapest, and the unemployed (or part time, or low wage earners) here in America are forced to buy the cheapest goods available - it's all they can afford. I think they'd rather buy the better quality stuff too, but just can't do it on what they earn any more.
I don't think it's a coincidence that the mushrooming of WalMart has been accompanied by the appearance of Dollar Stores, either - it's all that too many can afford these days.
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
It's the Evil Empire known as Wal Mart that did it. Well, them and the customers who kept demanding cheaper, cheaper, cheaper. Eventually, though, quality begins to trump price, at least with me and many consumers. I first noticed it when I discovered Black and Decker makes "Wal Mart" versions of their consumer power tools. They look identical to the same tools available at Sears and Lowe's and other places, but they are very cheaply made, and are quite a bit cheaper. People can spend $100 for a drill at Sears, or they can get the same-looking drill at Wal Mart for $50, and for the average Joe who uses it around the house once or twice a year, he's a happy camper. But for those who know better, they'll go for the higher priced, and higher quality tool every time.

I also experienced it when I went looking for a tire gauge at Wal Mart, and saw they no longer carry the Accu-Gage brand of tire gauges, but instead carry a cheaper, made in China knockoff, that looks very similar to the higher quality item. I walked, and bought mine at Sears.

But while quality can trump price, it has now gotten to the point where there are few domestic manufacturers to offer a higher quality alternative. I emplor you to read the following article. If you do, you will never look at Wal Mart the same way again, and you'll have a better understanding of what is going on at some of the shippers and consingees that you visit.

The Wal-Mart You Don't Know

Once you read that one, this one then makes a truly fascinating read, and will give you a new-found appreciation for products that you will not find at Wal Mart.

The Man Who Said No to Wal-Mart
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Have you noticed the latest ploy in marketing....on some of the clothes it says " 100% Cotton from the U.S.A....assembled in Singapore"

Now that we export about 90% of our raw cotton overseas....
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
Yup. Levi Strauss no longer makes jeans. They are an importer of jeans.
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
I had already read both articles linked by Turtle, and believe the key phrase is "Many companies had been moving jobs offshore for decades before WalMart appeared". As the US moved from a manufacturing to a service economy, the wages dropped for entry level jobs, while the cost of living continued to climb. WalMart understood the need for 'cheap' products, and exploited it, then expanded it by adding it's own employees to the market for cheap stuff.
As I said before: most consumers don't demand cheap prices because they don't recognize or appreciate better quality, but because it's what they can afford.
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
The notion of "quality trumps price" has not gone unnoticed at Walmart. In an annual report from Walmart three years ago, they admitted to what others had been reporting for some time, that the Walmart customer base has an income that is well below the national average. In addition, while most analysts believe it is higher, but Walmart finds that slightly more than 20% of their customers, one-in-five, do not have a bank account. That's more than twice the national average.

Because of that 2006 report, the one that makes it very clear that Walmart was catering to low income shoppers, Walmart began to take steps to change not only their image (with the nifty new Oneword, no-hyphen, upper/lower case name and logo), but to attract more affluent buyers, in addition to targeting specific audiences.

They dumped the one size fits all concept and have been moving to target six separate demographic groups, African Americans (A.K.A. blacks), Hispanics, empty-nesters, the affluent, rural and suburbanites. Among these 6 demographic groups, Walmart identified three primary groups to target, namely the Brand Aspirationals (people with low incomes who are obsessed with names like Rubbermaid, KitchenAid, Dirt Devil), Price-sensitive Affluents (wealthier shoppers who love deals), and Value-price Shoppers (poor income people who like low prices and cannot afford much more).

Recognizing that quality trumps price, they dumped the long-time slogan of "Always Low Prices, Always" and replaced it with two distinct marketing slogans, both designed to massage your mind into making you feel better about shopping there: "Saving people money so they can live better lives" and "Save Money Live Better". Because, of course, Walmart is the answer to you living a better life.

They changed the name from hyphen WAL-MART and asterisk WAL*MART to the much more friendly Walmart, with its rounded typeface, and looks more like John, or Mary instead of the cold block letters. No explanation was given by Walmart for the stunningly odd asterix sunburst sparky thingy in the logo.

They have also started opening up the new Supercenter concepts with the green theme, where they are catering to more affluent shoppers in targeted communities. These have things like wood floors, wider aisles, free WiFi in the coffee shop, more expensive and higher quality electronics, beers and wines, clothing and other goods. Always Low Prices, Always, is no more. Quality trumps price.

They are also trying to copy Tesco's Fresh and Easy Neighborhood Market concept with their own Walmart Neighborhood Market. Walmart had to close up shop and leave a handful of European countries due to Tesco's might over there, and the reverse may very well happen here. Time will tell if they succeed.

Those who enjoy the psychological aspects of psychological marketing, or those who like to be able to recognize when they are being manipulated by marketing, will enjoy watching how Walmart does with its subtle and not-so subtle attempts to change their image and attract new shoppers.

I do shop there, though not very often. If I'm looking for something specific and it's available at Walmart and a lot of other places, chances are it'll be cheaper at Walmart, so I'll get it there. Things like, I dunno, shampoo, toothpaste, windshield washer fluid, bunk batteries. But I won't buy junk there just because it's cheaper. I'll get the higher quality item someplace else.

Remember when, back in 1985, amid anxiety about trade deficits and the loss of American manufacturing jobs, those jobs Cheri talks about that were moving overseas long before Walmart got involved so directly with it, Sam Walton launched a "Made in America" campaign that committed Wal-Mart to buying American-made products if suppliers could get within 5 percent of the price of a foreign competitor. This may have compromised the bottom line in the short term, but Walton understood the long-term benefit of convincing employees and customers that the company had a conscience as well as a calculator.

Then Sam Walton died, and things went south in many respects. Corporate executives still clung to the "reduce costs at all costs" mantra, but did it without Sam Walton's commitment of how to do that. Dateline NBC exposed Walmart touting stuff as Made In America when it wasn't even made in the western hemisphere. Whoops. There goes the Made In America marketing campaign. It was reduced to "reduce costs at all costs" and "Always Low Prices, Always" where they eventually started chewing up and spitting out suppliers until more and more of them either had to close up shop entirely, or move overseas and become an importer, and it's coming back to bite them.

Question is, are they actually big enough to overcome it all? Clearly, they'll have to facilitate some domestic manufacturing in order to do it, if for no other reason than they need customers who have jobs.
 

pjjjjj

Veteran Expediter
I also go to another website where they talk about trucking issues, one of which is the contract that has to be signed in order to be a Walmart transporter of goods.. a contract which includes a one thousand dollar penalty for 'late', and which isimposed.. even when the rate for carrying the load isn't that high, and even when there is a valid reason for the tardiness.
 

RLENT

Veteran Expediter
My wife's brother drives an 18 wheeler - a reefer. Living in Springdale, AR he does quite a few Tyson loads. He was up about a week or so ago and we meet him at the TA in Lodi to take him out for dinner. He was pretty upset.

Seems he had delivered a load (on time) for, or to, Tysons sometime earlier .... and had just found that because he had forgotten to do a "check call" into Tysons after he had delivered, they were going to charge him back - I think it was $450 - and he's not even an owner-operator .... just a driver.

My first thought was "Honey, make sure when ya buy bird it's Perdue ...... Screw Tysons ...... "
 
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