The very weird Eugene Robinson

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The very despicable and weird Eugene Robinson I might add. Way to go Rachel Maddow for challenging him on his lame brain comments. I'm sure she is "down" with anything that can be used to paint Santorum as weird or extreme. Par for the course with the Obama network MSNBC.

Eugene Robinson: Rick Santorum's Stillborn Baby Story Is "Very Weird" | RealClearPolitics

 

[dieseldiva]

The very despicable and weird Eugene Robinson I might add. Way to go Rachel Maddow for challenging him on his lame brain comments. I'm sure she is "down" with anything that can be used to paint Santorum as weird or extreme. Par for the course with the Obama network MSNBC.

Eugene Robinson: Rick Santorum's Stillborn Baby Story Is "Very Weird" | RealClearPolitics

"Slept with"(Eugene)...."played with" (Colmes)......These 2 freaks have no idea, plus this has nothing to do with "policy". Santorum explained what they did and why, it's time for everyone to move away from this now.

 

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"Slept with"(Eugene)...."played with" (Colmes)......These 2 freaks have no idea, plus this has nothing to do with "policy". Santorum explained what they did and why, it's time for everyone to move away from this now.

Agree Colmes made a jerk out of himself earlier in the week with stupid comments and then Robinson doubles down with his comments. They are both freaks and losers.

 

[dieseldiva]

Agree Colmes made a jerk out of himself earlier in the week with stupid comments and then Robinson doubles down with his comments. They are both freaks and losers.

It's time for Colmes to move over to MSNBC where he obviously belongs. If you saw that clip of him making those comments, he was wearing such a smirk....it was clear that he was getting a kick out of himself and that's sick. It also makes his apology even more of a lie than it already was.

 

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It's time for Colmes to move over to MSNBC where he obviously belongs. If you saw that clip of him making those comments, he was wearing such a smirk....it was clear that he was getting a kick out of himself and that's sick. It also makes his apology even more of a lie than it already was.

I'll have to watch it again. He belongs on MSNBC where they partake in that kind of jibberish full time. Fox News should get rid of him. I don't mind Fox having the liberal point of view, but this guy is an embarrassment.

 

[Turtle]

"It's time for Colmes to move over to MSNBC where he obviously belongs."

Where he belongs? Left Wing jibberish, Right Wing jibberish, it's all just jibberish. Granted, he's a crazy liberal, but doesn't he, at least on some level, help balance out the crazy conservatives on Fox? I mean, you know, Fair and Balanced and all that.

"...it's time for everyone to move away from this now."

I think it's a good thing that it's being talked about now. It was certainly plenty talked about (on the Net) years ago when the story first came out, and the fact that he had a picture of Gabriel on his desk. It absolutely affirms his positions on abortion, when life begins, and his definition of "baby" (he was so horrified when he saw "20-week old fetus" on the death certificate that he made them change it to "20-week old baby", despite it in reality only being a 2-hour old baby). So you have to give him credit for walking the walk, of being honest in his beliefs and convictions of principles.

Most people will never experience what the Santorum family experienced, and even the seemingly cold and callous comments give those making the comments the opportunity to learn something. Even Eugene Robinson was educated a little bit in the overnight since his statements, and did a mea culpa and about face on The Morning Joe this morning. It should be talked about not as some talking point of ammunition to be used against Santorum (as family matters should generally be off limits in politics in almost all circumstances), but because it gives many people the opportunity to learn about such an extremely personal family decision.

 

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If you saw that clip of him making those comments, he was wearing such a smirk .... it was clear that he was getting a kick out of himself and that's sick.

That facial expression is typical of Colmes ..... and may not necessarily be reflective of anything nefarious ....

It would have been nice if the little chickenhawk weasel Lowry had shut his pie-hole long enough for Colmes finish his entire thought instead of just shouting him down ...... then a fair conclusion could have been drawn about what Colmes was going to say, since Colmes would have said it .... rather than having to substitute Richie's propaganda line instead.

Personally, I find Lowry's reaction - which seems just a tad intolerant and motivated by a disgusting abject hatred - to be far more repugnant than the fact that Colmes raised the issue.

The reality was that it was going to be brought up and talked about - no matter how desperate Rich Lowry was that it shouldn't be.

 

[dieseldiva]

but because it gives many people the opportunity to learn about such an extremely personal family decision.

You mean the same way they "learned" something from Sarah Palin's decision not to abort her baby when she found out he had Downe's Syndrome??

 

[dieseldiva]

The reason I said that Colmes belongs on MSNBC is not because I don't think there should be balance on Fox, it's because he is so caustic, so hateful....anyone that's ever watched primetime on MSNBC would see how hateful they are, I don't see that from any of the other liberals on Fox.

 

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Colmes level of jibberish is in a league by itself. Fox has other libs like Kirsten Powers they can use that aren't wacked like Colmes. As for pullitzer prize winning writer Robinson he basically said he didn't express himself the right way. Pullitzer prize writer.


http://hotair.com/archives/2012/01/06/eugene-robinson-squirms-through-apology-to-rick-santorum/

 

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The reason I said that Colmes belongs on MSNBC is not because I don't think there should be balance on Fox, it's because he is so caustic, so hateful....anyone that's ever watched primetime on MSNBC would see how hateful they are, I don't see that from any of the other liberals on Fox.

Maybe Bob Beckel as well. He is caustic but not really hatefull. MSNBC continuesly deals in race baiting and class warfare. Colmes would fit in nicely over there.

 

[Turtle]

Colmes level of jibberish is in a league by itself.

That much is certain.

As for Robinson, a Pulitzer Prize winning author does not a Pulitzer Price winning orator make. Not only did he state he didn't express himself the right way, he had trouble expressing that he didn't express himself the right way.

 

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A callous and unfortunate statement by Colmes and Robinson has turned into a Fox vs. MSNBC and who is more hateful?

Fox has douchebags and MSNBC has douchebags, the better to keep mindless lemmings coming back for more.

 

[Turtle]

You mean the same way they "learned" something from Sarah Palin's decision not to abort her baby when she found out he had Downe's Syndrome??

Pretty much, yeah, but they are really two different issues. One is an elective decision (to abort or not), the other is a reaction to a tragic happening (death of a premature baby).

Many people experience finding out various potential and real conditions of their unborn baby. They can understand the personal decision of wanting to keep or abort it, based on their own feelings in the matter. But most people don't experience a miscarriage at 20 weeks at a hospital - they experience that, if at all, at home, where the family grieving process is immediate and intimate. Bringing home a 20-week old fetus is gonna be weird to many people, until discussion like this makes them think a little differently, and not as knee-jerk, about it. When you think on it a while and try to put yourself in the same situation, it becomes not weird at all, but becomes a natural, human thing to do.

 

[Turtle]

The reason I said that Colmes belongs on MSNBC is not because I don't think there should be balance on Fox, it's because he is so caustic, so hateful....anyone that's ever watched primetime on MSNBC would see how hateful they are, I don't see that from any of the other liberals on Fox.

I don't see it from any of the other liberals on Fox, but I do see it from more than one of the conservatives on Fox.

 

[dieseldiva]

Pretty much, yeah, but they are really two different issues. One is an elective decision (to abort or not), the other is a reaction to a tragic happening (death of a premature baby).

Many people experience finding out various potential and real conditions of their unborn baby. They can understand the personal decision of wanting to keep or abort it, based on their own feelings in the matter. But most people don't experience a miscarriage at 20 weeks at a hospital - they experience that, if at all, at home, where the family grieving process is immediate and intimate. Bringing home a 20-week old fetus is gonna be weird to many people, until discussion like this makes them think a little differently, and not as knee-jerk, about it. When you think on it a while and try to put yourself in the same situation, it becomes not weird at all, but becomes a natural, human thing to do.

I agree about the more you think about it, it becomes more natural. Maybe I'm expecting too much to think that some things should be off limits. And I still don't think that liberals will think that deep on it, they'll just scratch the surface, label him as "weird" and move on.......until it hits home with them at another time.

 

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I agree about the more you think about it, it becomes more natural. Maybe I'm expecting too much to think that some things should be off limits. And I still don't think that liberals will think that deep on it, they'll just scratch the surface, label him as "weird" and move on.......until it hits home with them at another time.

Soooooo, in your mind only "liberals" will think this is weird?

I'm sure their are some conservatives that just might think this is weird, I think their might be some religious folk that think this is weird, I think that their might be some independants that might think this is weird, their might be some democrats, republicans, neo-cons, right wing, left wing, anarchists, enviromentalists, feminists, socialists, hillbillies, rednecks, yankees, etc, etc, that just might think this is weird. Then, I suppose, some in that list I just gave will find what Mr. Santorum did was perfectly fine.

Me personally, to each his own. But it is a little weird.

Ever hear the phrase, "Label jars not people"?

 

[Turtle]

Some things should be off limits in politics, like family. However, when you yourself (candidate or elected official) bring up your family, it becomes a little less off limits. When you place a picture on your office desk of Gabriel at 20 weeks gestation, talk about him in the present tense (a very Catholic thing to do), to reporters and visitors, it's difficult to then claim it's off limits. Kind of like Palin, you put your Downs Syndrome baby in public, and then tell about how you knew it was gonna be a Downs baby, it's a little hard to then claim it's off limits.


"And I still don't think that liberals will think that deep on it, they'll just scratch the surface, label him as "weird" and move on.......until it hits home with them at another
time."

This is an issue that demands some deep thinking and reflection, and cuts across left/right lines as a miscarriage is neither left nor right. Some won't do that, of course, liberals or conservatives, and will label him as weird and move on. It's not like those liberals would vote for him, weird or not, so it doesn't matter much. Some will label him weird because he's a conservative and they don't agree with him, and that's the end of that. They refuse to think deeper. It actually reminds me of how so many people have scratched the Ron Paul surface and labeled him a kook, without thinking very deep (or even as deep as the difference between non-interventionalism and isolationism, which ain't all that deep), and then have moved on.

 

[Turtle]

Ever hear the phrase, "Label jars not people"?

Yes. It's a politically correct phrase invented by the Center on Human Policy, a special interest group dedicated to the disability rights movement, to get people to remove disabled, handicapped, crippled, and retarded from our vocabulary. It's emotionally politically correct speech coercion.

In the context of disability rights, most can be readily discerned as disabled, handicapped, crippled and even retarded without having to bear the obvious label, which, ironically, is the same with stuff in glass jars, where you can easily discern what's in there, so there's really no need to label most jars.

In the context of politics, not so much, where it's not so easy to tell them apart without a label. As much as people hate being labeled as to what they actually are, there's nothing wrong with slapping labels on people to let others know what they're getting.

 

[dieseldiva]

Soooooo, in your mind only "liberals" will think this is weird?

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Sooooooo, you're a mind reader now???