Should young children that very rarely get sick and very rarely transmit the virus be mandatory vaccinated, which carries potential side effects?
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But for the most part those are not adverse reactions, that is the vaccine doing what it is supposed to do, creating an immune response. For someone who had a reaction that made you sick, the actual virus would have caused major issues ( or at least that is my opinion anyway).
We have many people every year choose to serve their country by joining the armed forces and we cant get everyone who can be vaccinated to get the shot? How unpatriotic.
Specifally heart inflammation. That's a "major issue."
RLENT
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Adverse heart reactions are a potential side effect of hydroxychloroquine.
And potentially life-threatening ones at that.
danthewolf00
Veteran Expediter
That drug would have saved many lives if Democrats had backed it, but they hated trump more than your life....
danthewolf00
Veteran Expediter
That was for one of the vaccines not Hydroxychloroquine.....which has been proven beneficial in fighting covid-19 along with ventilator treatment.
danthewolf00
Veteran Expediter
Saying that your unpatriotic because you don't want to get the vaccine is like saying your unpatriotic because you don't want to climb into that gas chamber.....
Remember "life,liberty, and the pursuit of happiness " you want to infringe on my rights expect a fight then.
I might get the vaccine in a few years after all the adverse effects are ironed out.....you should see the crap diabetics have to deal with when taking our pills.....metformin comes to mind.
Remember "life,liberty, and the pursuit of happiness " you want to infringe on my rights expect a fight then.
I might get the vaccine in a few years after all the adverse effects are ironed out.....you should see the crap diabetics have to deal with when taking our pills.....metformin comes to mind.
RLENT
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No - that's incorrect.
I've already covered this once.
Please pay closer attention:
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Hydroxychloroquine
Which are rare.
I doubt it. The vaccine is pretty specific, which doesn't usually translate directly to the general. But some, I suppose.
It's a major issue, but only for a really, really small percentage of the population. All vaccines including mumps, measles, all those were given as kids, tetanus, annual flu, come with risks. As with any vaccine you have to weigh the risk/reward.
As I'm sure you are aware, all medications have side effects, some of them potentially serious or fatal. Hydroxychloroquine alone (short term, meaning 30 days or less) really has almost no heart related side effects, except for those with existing heart rhythm issues or one of a couple of specific cardiopulmonary conditions.
Hydroxychloroquine is prescribed by far the most for rheumatoid arthritis, and is done so frankly without much consideration about preexisting heart conditions, except for the irregular heartbeat people. And it's prescribed long term. But doctors do tend to take their patients off hydroxychloroquine if they go on antibiotics, so as not to induce heart problems.
It seems pretty clear from the few (mostly botched) studies and anecdotal evidence that once you've been hospitalized it's way too late for hydroxychloroquine to be of any benefit. It needs to be taken early, and in large doses for it to be effective.
The hospital in my county started giving hydroxychloroquine to patients that qualified medically (none of those existing heart conditions) and wanted to take it, immediately after a second positive test for covid. Significantly fewer of those people ended up in the hospital. But it's not a controlled study. They did discover pretty early on that hydroxychloroquine administered with azithromycin resulted in a slight increase (but not slight enough, meaning statistically notable, about a 1-2.something percent increase) in angina and heart failure. Two people (out of thousands) died from heart failure that may or may not have been directly attributable to the hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin. Both deaths were people in their late 50s. So they switched from azithromycin to amoxicillin, which it a different type of antibiotic. The incidents of heart problems dropped back down to normal rates.
So I dunno. It's just a risk/reward thing, like everything else. I say if you are comfortable taking the vaccine, you should take it. Same with hydroxychloroquine, if you're early enough in the diagnosis. If you're not comfortable taking the vaccine, I say do some more research not at news sites. News sites are full of information from reporters who are trying to interpret for you what scientists have tried to interpret for them. That's no place to get medical advice, especially since scientists quite often, as we have all seen lately, can't even agree on the interpretations.
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That's a tougher question than it seems at first blush. It'll take time to get that figured out. 5, 10 years from now, we may find the answer to be a resounding yes. It could be the virus lays dormant in those kids for years or decades and eventually emerges to infect far more people, but if vaccinated anyway they end up not infecting anybody at all ever.
danthewolf00
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Lol you are old enough to have been a teen when learning how to drive a car which had no seat belt ever.....and guess what people still drive a car with out wearing one but risk dieing in a car accident or getting a ticket from a cop.....its still a person's choice weather to wear it....just like the choice to get the vaccine.
danthewolf00
Veteran Expediter
And don't even get me started on drunk drivers.
danthewolf00
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Oh the movie with will Smith comes to mind called "I am legend" where a vaccine is given freely and guess what they all get sick.....those who didn't want it didn't get sick.
Wouldn't it have been patriotic and personal freedom to allow people to take hydroxychloroquine if they wanted to prescribed by a doctor? Think of the lives it would have saved.
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danthewolf00
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Personal freedom is why you have the right to choose to take a vaccine....this isn't nazi Germany.....despite what the Democrat leadership wants.