"The Proposal"

oncedrove

Expert Expediter
When a company falls on difficult times, one of the things that seems to happen is they reduce their staff and workers. The remaining workers must find ways to continue to do a good job or risk that their job would be eliminated as well.



Wall street, and the media normally congratulate the CEO for making this type of "tough decision", and his board of directors gives him a big bonus.

Our government should not be immune from similar risks.

Therefore:

Reduce the House of Representatives from the current 435 members to 218 members.

Reduce Senate members from 100 to 50 (one per State). Then, reduce their staff by 25%.

Accomplish this over the next 8 years

(two steps/two elections) and of course this would require some redistricting.

Some Yearly Monetary Gains Include:

$44,108,400 for elimination of base pay for congress. (267 members X $165,200 pay/member/ yr.)

$97,175,000 for elimination of their staff. (estimate $1.3 Million in staff per each member of the House, and $3 Million in staff per each member of the Senate every year)

$240,294 for the reduction in remaining staff by 25%.

$7,500,000,000 reduction in pork barrel ear-marks each year. (those members whose jobs are gone. Current estimates for total government pork earmarks are at $15 Billion/yr). < B>

The remaining representatives would need to work smarter and improve efficiencies. It might even be in their best interests to work together for the good of our country!

We may also expect that smaller committees might lead to a more efficient resolution of issues as well.. It might even be easier to keep track of what your representative is doing.

Congress has more tools available to do their jobs than it had back in 1911 when the current number of representatives was established. (telephone, computers, cell phones to name a few)

Note:
Congress did not hesitate to head home when it was a holiday, when the nation needed a real fix to the economic problems. Also, we had 3 senators that were not doing their jobs for the 18+ months (on the campaign trail) and still they all have accepted full pay. These facts alone support a reduction in senators & congress.

Summary of opportunity:

$ 44,108,400 reduction of congress members.

$282,100, 000 for elimination of the reduced house member staff.

$150,000,000 for elimination of reduced senate member staff.

$59,675,000 for 25% reduction of staff for remaining house members.

$37,500,000 for 25% reduction of staff for remaining senate members.

$7,500,000,000 reduction in pork added to bills by the reduction of congress members.

$8,073,383,400 per year, estimated total savings. (that's 8-BILLION just to start!)

Big business does these types of cuts all the time.

If Congresspersons were required to serve 20, 25 or 30 years (like everyone else) in order to collect retirement benefit, tax payers could save a bundle.

Now they get full retirement after serving only ONE term.
 

Poorboy

Expert Expediter
Sounds Like a Darn good Idea BUT, Do you think that those Ignorant and Arrogant People are gonna even consider any of that? Unfortunatley NO!! "Good Idea Though! Just look at what Barry Spent on his Health care Vacation to Montana, Instead of using a Place where they could Have accomodated the "chosen" attendees for his Lying Speech on his Health Care Package, he chose a Secluded Airplane Hangar which had no Seating or Tables! Or Anything else for that Matter, He flew in Plane load after Plane load of Equipment, Including his Teleprompters, He Bussed in 2 Buses of "Union" People, UPS Delivered over $100.000.00 in "Lobster!" He paid for 1500 Tickets to be Printed for "Any" person who wanted to attend, But only 600 tickets were Given Out! That's Not including His Support Staff for Him and His Family, His Plane and All of the Equipment for his Security Staff! I wish I Could put a Dollar amount on Everything But I can't! All of this Spending when the Country is in a Recession! Go Figure Huh! :mad: And That's Just Montana!
 
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mjolnir131

Veteran Expediter
give control to a few number of people ?.. not hardly however i'm all for reducing there staffs to 20% of the pesent number or lower.
 

RLENT

Veteran Expediter
give control to a few number of people ? ... not hardly
Exactly ....... the last thing one should want to do is concentrate power further, into fewer hands .... a very, very bad idea.

Nice premise (reduce the size of government) ..... but utterly horrible on the execution - the area that ought to be targeted for that is the executive branch - not the legislative - the executive is where the real meat and potential savings are.

Factually, one would be far better off doing the exact opposite - at least in terms of citizen representation - more reps (in the House at least, probably the Senate too) ..... so that more individual members are directly answerable to fewer citizens ....

however i'm all for reducing there staffs to 20% of the pesent number or lower.
Again, we would be far better off if we took the half of the number of the staff, got rid of them, and then increased the representatives (House and Senate) by that amount - and then spread the remaining staff between the new number of reps.

And made it mandatory that the elected representatives actually did the work .... instead of palming it off on staff ..... who tell the reps what to think, and what their positions ought to be. The individual representatives spend too much time showboating, and acting as window dressing .... as mere symbols ...

Back a few years ago (.... 6 .... 8 ?) my business partner and I had dinner (at my partners house), with a guy he knew and had worked with on tax issues, that he had invited over. We then spent the rest of evening (about 4 or 5 hours) talking with this guy - his name was John Silvia ((current bio)) and he was (at the time) the Chief Economist for the Senate Banking Committee (when Phil Gramm was chairing it) .... John was formerly the head economist at Kemper Funds, and a managing director of Scudder Kemper Investments in Chicago. IOW, he was from the real world ... and a very smart man.

At that point John had been around long enough in DC to make a few observations - and he gave us a several hour education on what he saw as the problem, due to how government actually works (or doesn't, depending on your viewpoint):

Most of the congressional staff are pretty young - 30 to 35, and often much younger (very little actual life experience, beyond school), often just out of college .... and the primary reason they come there is to just put in their time representing interests (doesn't really matter which ones ... or whether they even agree with them philosophically or not) .... largely so that they can then leave and get a job from .... you guessed it: the very same interests they have been been representing .... it's commonly known thing .... you put in your time in order to get your real meal ticket ....

It isn't so much that the congressional reps direct the staff, as much as it is the other way around - the staff directs the member ... IOW, it is, to a large degree, inverted from what it should be.

By the time this guy got done I was flabbergasted .... I really don't do the story justice .... it was truly scary .... you would have to have been there ..... and the population, by and large, hasn't a clue about how it really is .....
 
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