The Great Recession is Officially Over

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
The National Bureau of Economic Research is the entity that officially dates the beginning and end of U.S. recessions. It announced today that what has become known as the Great Recession ended in June, 2009. It began in December, 2007, making this the longest and deepest economic slowdown since the Great Depression of the 1930s.

I post this simply as an item of reference. Anyone using the Open Forum to research the history of expediting and how expediting was affected by the Great Recession will find this thread along with several others in which expediters discussed the recession before, during and after it went on.

At present, we are in a period of economic growth but it is slow growth. The optimists project more slow growth. The pessimists say the economy is growing at close to stall speed and may turn downward soon to begin another recession. No one is projecting strong economic growth in the near future.

It has been quite a ride. We saw many expediters and expedite carriers leave the business. We saw housing prices crash. We saw the stock market crash such that it wiped out many people's retirement nest eggs. We saw the national debt skyrocket. We saw major expedited freight customers, including automobile companies, cut way back or go under altogether. We saw unemployment rise. We saw truck shows shrink in size and attendance. We saw truck sales shrink too. We saw used truck prices decline sharply, putting many owner-operators upside down in their truck loans. We saw a number of too-big-to fail banks and wall street firms fail. We saw credit dry up.

We also saw a number of expediters make it through in good shape with some even prospering in difficult times; a remarkable achievement given the storm they had to navigate.
 
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highway star

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I got something in the mail today that's proof positive that the recession's over. It was a card from Custom Critical declaring the recession over and saying that they need owner operators like me. That pretty much puts any doubt to rest, right?
 

Poorboy

Expert Expediter
I got something in the mail today that's proof positive that the recession's over. It was a card from Custom Critical declaring the recession over and saying that they need owner operators like me. That pretty much puts any doubt to rest, right?

Me too, I got mine in the mail yesterday, Guess it's really over:rolleyes:
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
Originally Posted by highway star

I got something in the mail today that's proof positive that the recession's over. It was a card from Custom Critical declaring the recession over and saying that they need owner operators like me. That pretty much puts any doubt to rest, right?

Poorboy wrote:

Me too, I got mine in the mail yesterday, Guess it's really over

It has to be over...I got one too!!
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
I guess "desparate people, do desperate things".
They actually sent me one as well.
Imagine that.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
I thought it was a joke when I got that flyer in my cat's name.

As for it being over - BS.

Many of the economist who are out in the public are saying "these guys are too well insulated and don't see the actual issues just the numbers which are meaningless now with the new economy" .

There are serious questions being raised whether the "timing" of this "news" is more political than anything else, it actually looks like they are trying to boaster up the party in power with the false hope like the 2008 election where there was false doom and 2009 spending packages where they were riding on the need to stop the fall of the country.

AND because the spending of the government sector has not been taken out of the GDP, there is a question if it is even close to be over by the actual numbers - government has grown too much too fast and their expenditures are still ramping up through stimulus spending which may end sooner than we think and leave us into another official recession.

For many it is far from over, a lot of people are still unemployed (still more than 15%), there are a number of groups who will never be gainfully employed again in their lives, while other groups are being over compensated for their job losses and may end up with jobs not based on their merits. There has been a few articles about how the over 50 crowd unemployed majority are feeling they will never have meaningful employment again, which for the first time is actually an indicator of the shape of the new American worker.

The government has let programs fall to the wayside because funding seems to be shifted to more important things within the state (teacher's pensions are one thing), while stimulus spending has been more or less just a big **** pot of money for anyone to use without any standards or ethics.

We have more debt on our backs - both individually and collectively - and we have little insight into our immediate future.

Why is this not in the soapbox?
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I moved it. I don't see where to put that in the moderation section. I guess I just don't see it, understand it, what ever. I am not the shadow by the way. I don't think he posts in here any more!! :p
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
There you go, admitting you are the shadow - mystery that plagued mankind for decades now solved, lets move on to the Lindberg baby.
 

Doggie Daddy

Veteran Expediter
I didn't know that who the shadow was was the question, I always thought the question was.."who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?.....the shadow knows".
 

witness23

Veteran Expediter
It is now Greg, I moved it when I seen it this morning. This is a better home for this topic.

Sorry layout I have to point it out. Its not "seen", it would be "saw", seen is used with have or had. I know it is annoying but its a pet peeve of mine.
 

Slo-Ride

Veteran Expediter
I gotta side with Greg,,I don't think we are out of the woods yet.
No doubt in my mind ppl that write those articles where never affected to begin with. 3$ a gallon gas doesn't bother em.
This year has been somewhat upbeat for me and not really 1 flat tire away from bankruptcy right now,,but give me 2 bad paychecks in a row and ill be back to complaining about the light bill.
Learned of another plant that is working on a day to day basis and thats the Corvette plant in B.Green KY, Women on the dock says they are down to app 80 cars a day,8mins per car and working 2 week schedules at a time..App. 300 ppl left on the line.
All so I (think) I heard one of the ford plants north of Detroit (Romeo)is sch. to close near the end of this year unless Ford brings em another line of motors to build..
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Well today someone brought up a very good point (somewhere else in this internet thing) - where is the inflation?

They, being econimist seem to think that there is a lot of problems brewing under the surface because we have not seen any increases in any costs above a recovery. With that as they pointed out is the same thing happening back in 1932 when we started to hit a hard downward slide of prices and lowering of wages across the board.

Remember our 30's depression wasn't about a crash per se but rather a deflation of the economy - bursting of the stock bubble. With the intervention of our great leader, our messiah, there are serious questions of what actually was the real need to push all this debt in the form of deflated money into the system and they, like FDR and his administration only do things as an experiment where they can respond to bad things after they happen, long after.
 
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