Terrorist Bomb in..... Wetherby?!?!

Turtle

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Wetherby, the small town of 11,000 people within the City of Leeds, in West Workshire, England. It has a long history, as do most English towns, but this is best known for centuries as a popular stop and staging post on the Great North Road, being exactly 198 miles between London and Edinburgh.

US Captain Clark Gable was also stationed at nearby RAF Marston Moor during WWII as part of the USAAF ground staff. Adolph Hitler issued a reward offer for the famous airman's capture, which prompted Gable's transfer to RAF Polebrook in Northamptonshire.

It was a normal busy Friday morning in the small West Yorkshire market town of Wetherby when someone working in a café spotted a man acting a bit suspiciously on the street.

He appeared to have a small plastic box in his hand and after fiddling with the container he bent down and hid it under a flower box standing on the pavement. He then walked off, talking to somebody on his phone.

Karen Brittain, whose café door is just a few feet from where the container was left on 1 July, was alarmed by the man's behaviour and called the police, who then sealed off the area.

She said: "We were closed down for several hours and it was a disaster for us really, because we had been very busy that morning and it was a beautiful day and we probably would have been very busy."

A unit from the Royal Logistics Corps at Catterick Garrison were called. They moved the planter to expose the box and sent in a robot to carry out a controlled explosion.

Suspicious device

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Bomb disposal experts carried out a controlled explosion on the plastic box

Shops in the area were closed for nearly three hours and business owners say they collectively lost thousands of pounds. Afterwards the remains of the plastic box were left scattered across the pavement.


But it was not a bomb, the suspicious device was a geocache.

Geocaching is an Internet-based treasure hunt. Here in the UK it has grown in popularity over the last decade and tens of thousands of people are involved.

The concept is a simple one. Geocachers leave a container, which can vary greatly in size, at a location of their choice. They then put the exact co-ordinates of their box on the geocache website.

Other geocachers then go hunting for the box. There are currently thousands of caches hidden across Britain.

They are found by using a device fitted with GPS - Global Positioning System. The geocacher who has hidden a box puts the GPS co-ordinates online and these are used by other geocachers to find it.

The cache is nearly always well hidden and can take a bit of cunning to find. It's all part of the challenge, but it's also why the centre of Wetherby was brought to a standstill.

The events in West Yorkshire have now made the police and the geocaching community pause for thought. Some online forums are now questioning whether caches should be left in urban areas.

Ch Insp Mick Hunter, who was in charge of the response last Friday, said: "Police don't want to spoil people's fun and if people want to geocache then that's great.

"But in placing the caches, what I would say is, please apply some common sense to where you put them."


He also questions putting caches in urban areas.

"If you feel as though you have to do that, then perhaps contact the police, let us know where it is, give us a description and perhaps a picture and a contact number would be very useful."

But what do geocachers think? Dave Palmer, a prolific geocacher, believes there is still a problem with many people being unaware of the activity.

"We still need to get the information out to police officers. Maybe we need to get to chief police officer level and get the information disseminated down to a forcewide level in each area," he said.

Although this appears to be an episode executed in good faith from all sides, it left traders in a busy town out of pocket and the last geocacher to find the box outside Karen's café with a police caution.

And with so many caches around the UK at the moment, will this be the last time one of them cause a bomb scare?
 

EnglishLady

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In Wetherby !! :confused: LOL



"But what do geocachers think? Dave Palmer, a prolific geocacher, believes there is still a problem with many people being unaware of the activity.
We still need to get the information out to police officers .... "


DUH ... y'think :rolleyes:


"Ch Insp Mick Hunter, who was in charge of the response last Friday, said: "Police don't want to spoil people's fun and if people want to geocache then that's great.
But in placing the caches, what I would say is, please apply some common sense to where you put them."


Exactly :mad:

In this day & age, it might be a good idea to inform the police in the first place ... hmmm :rolleyes:
 

layoutshooter

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Why would there NOT be a bomb in Wetherby? There is a very large American population living there. They have been "targeted" before. Once while I lived there. It was broken up before the "attack" took place. We had special "Mounted Bobbie" patrols in our neighborhood in Harrogate for a 2 week period at the same time.

American's are a target where ever they work overseas. Even in "Jolly Old England". England has a large "radical Muslim" population and it is VERY well known over there where the "American ghettos" are. They are easy targets.

I am happy to hear that this was not such an attack.
 

EnglishLady

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Why would there NOT be a bomb in Wetherby? There is a very large American population living there. They have been "targeted" before. Once while I lived there. It was broken up before the "attack" took place. We had special "Mounted Bobbie" patrols in our neighborhood in Harrogate for a 2 week period at the same time.

American's are a target where ever they work overseas. Even in "Jolly Old England". England has a large "radical Muslim" population and it is VERY well known over there where the "American ghettos" are. They are easy targets.

I am happy to hear that this was not such an attack.



Harrogate I could understand with a larger population (approx. 158,000 as opposed to 11,000 in Wetherby)

As you know, terrorists usually go after maximum destruction and disruption.
 

greg334

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English version;

Ch Insp Mick Hunter, who was in charge of the response last Friday, said: "Police don't want to spoil people's fun and if people want to geocache then that's great.

"But in placing the caches, what I would say is, please apply some common sense to where you put them."

American version;
FBI Agent Olivia Dunham, who is in charge of the response last Friday, said: " We can't look at this as having fun but rather we are treating this as a possible terrorist act with the intent to do serious harm. We have identified the individual who has place this device and have taken steps to arrest him and others involved swiftly"

"But in placing the device in a populated business area with the intent to intimidate or possible harm people, we can not take this lightly and in this case the individual may be charged with the intent to commit a terrorist act"
 

Turtle

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I could see someone freaking out over a suspicious character hiding a box in a nifty hiding place somewhere in Trafalgar Square, under a bush at the west side of St James Park, or under that really big clock at the Palace of Westminster (you know the one), or even under the cucumbers in a Tesco, but freaking out because someone placed it under a flower box in Wetherby? LOL That just stuck me as hilarious.

At least the bomb squad got to use their toys. Could be worse. They could be shooting at concrete alligators in Missouri.
 

layoutshooter

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Harrogate I could understand with a larger population (approx. 158,000 as opposed to 11,000 in Wetherby)

As you know, terrorists usually go after maximum destruction and disruption.

There are well over 100 American families living in Wetherby. They are "clumped" together on a few streets that our government has been leasing for over 40 years. Those streets are well known to those who would do harm to Americans. They are not protected unless a threat is known. They are just quiet streets in a town. They have been targeted in the past. There are several other "American ghettos" in other towns in that area.

Terrorists often target Americans overseas. At many of our sites our people had to have armed escorts to go to and from work and our people were NOT allowed to do things when off work with out an armed escort. It was slightly better than house arrest.

Life was not always hunky dorey for those of us who served at overseas sites. There was always a threat in the background. Even in Wetherby.

It is VERY serious business. Nothing can be taken lightly, even this innocent thing MUST be handled as if it were real until proven other wise.
 

EnglishLady

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There are well over 100 American families living in Wetherby. They are "clumped" together on a few streets that our government has been leasing for over 40 years. Those streets are well known to those who would do harm to Americans. They are not protected unless a threat is known. They are just quiet streets in a town. They have been targeted in the past. There are several other "American ghettos" in other towns in that area.

Terrorists often target Americans overseas. At many of our sites our people had to have armed escorts to go to and from work and our people were NOT allowed to do things when off work with out an armed escort. It was slightly better than house arrest.

Life was not always hunky dorey for those of us who served at overseas sites. There was always a threat in the background. Even in Wetherby.

It is VERY serious business. Nothing can be taken lightly, even this innocent thing MUST be handled as if it were real until proven other wise.


Trust me, I am not saying it should not have been investigated but ..... if it was a responsible group out to have fun, then they should have used common sense.
 

layoutshooter

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Trust me, I am not saying it should not have been investigated but ..... if it was a responsible group out to have fun, then they should have used common sense.

Yeah, they should have thought it out. The problem is that normal, fun loving people never think of the idea that it would look like a bomb. They are just having fun. Terrorism is not in their nature. They are not aware of the problems it may cause.
 

Fr8 Shaker

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Stuff like that will just make it easier for terrorists to plant bombs and not look as suspicious because people will think someone is just playing a game.
 

EnglishLady

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Stuff like that will just make it easier for terrorists to plant bombs and not look as suspicious because people will think someone is just playing a game.



Thats easily solved .....


Take the "boxes" to the Police Station and have them hide them
:p:D
 

EnglishLady

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OH, the mind wonders on what would happen then!! They would likely LOSE them and then........................................... LOL!



and then ....

you would have a lot of ppl wandering around on a treasure hunt saying ...

"Boy, those policemen sure know how to hide stuff" :p:D
 

layoutshooter

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and then ....

you would have a lot of ppl wandering around on a treasure hunt saying ...

"Boy, those policemen sure know how to hide stuff" :p:D

And then the collective bomb squads from "Scotland Yard" (new version) the US and Interpol would be called in. They would be tripping all over themselves. There would be broken arms and legs and 17 "strange packages" exploded on the streets of Wetherby, Harrogate, Pately Bridge etc. HUGE holes in the streets, the Queen would be hurried off to the British Virgin Islands to get her out of the "Attack Zone" :p
 

EnglishLady

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And then the collective bomb squads from "Scotland Yard" (new version) the US and Interpol would be called in. They would be tripping all over themselves. There would be broken arms and legs and 17 "strange packages" exploded on the streets of Wetherby, Harrogate, Pately Bridge etc. HUGE holes in the streets, the Queen would be hurried off to the British Virgin Islands to get her out of the "Attack Zone" :p

LOL

Nooooo, because you said the police would lose the boxes, but the treasure hunters wouldn't know that would they :D:p
 

layoutshooter

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LOL

Nooooo, because you said the police would lose the boxes, but the treasure hunters wouldn't know that would they :D:p

It would be better than a circus coming to town!! Government "clowns" every where! Much finger pointing! Tongue wagging and blame being pushed! PT would be PROUD of it! So would the world's "zoo keepers"!! ( It would seem I have little respect for law enforcement world wide, eh? )
 
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