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MCBuggyCo

Seasoned Expediter
Today on I-70 west of St Louis I saw a T/T that had a single tire everywhere you would expect to see two tires. Is this something new or what? They were extra wide tires.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Today on I-70 west of St Louis I saw a T/T that had a single tire everywhere you would expect to see two tires. Is this something new or what? They were extra wide tires.

They are called Super Singles, Michelin and Bridgestone have them on the market. Been around for a while.
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
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Fleet Owner
Bob and Linder (Teamcaffee) need to chime in on this as they are currently running them.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
I see some of the big OTR carriers switching over...Most of Pilots trucks have them...they wouldn't make this investment without a cost survey....
 

TeamCaffee

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Ready to Chime in! We have run them over a year now and love the ride and the way they handle. They handle very well on ice and snow and you see them on the Flying J trucks in all of the northern areas. They are also wearing like iron and we are very pleased with that. The one thing we have noticed that they do not like is mud. Since we have only had them on one muddy dirt road in all of the time we have had them we are not to concerned.
We also have a Pressure Pro air monitor with our Super Singles just in case we pick something up in the tires we will be aware we have a tire going low. We also have Centramatics on all of our axles. Over all we could not be more pleased with the way our tires are wearing, and also the weight savings we have received with them.
 
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ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
Have you noticed any change in fuel economy that you can attribute to your super singles?
 

TeamCaffee

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It took awhile to get the tires wore in and we are back to a little above what we were when we first put them on. We have pretty much maxed out what we can get for fuel mileage on this truck with out either changing our rear ends or just getting a new truck. Anything more we add to the truck the return is very little to our mpg. I know our CAT engine repair facility was very surprised at our average mpg on this truck.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Right along with the debate on whether they are any good? I like the idea but am concerned about wet weather traction and to a lesser extent how they handle snow/ice.

When I was stuck in Erie a few weeks ago, the only trucks that actually got out of their parking spots without help were the ones with super singles. They just drove out without the problems of spinning the wheels that all the other trucks had. There was a 'pit' almost in front of me that was made by a volvo, if you didn't get a running start to get by it but most stopped to make the turn. The super single trucks coming from the fuel isle didn't have the problems getting out of the put. It was amazing to watch and I didn't think of filming them until the last one made it out.
 

P51bombay

Expert Expediter
It took awhile to get the tires wore in and we are back to a little above what we were when we first put them on. We have pretty much maxed out what we can get for fuel mileage on this truck with out either changing our rear ends or just getting a new truck. Anything more we add to the truck the return is very little to our mpg. I know our CAT engine repair facility was very surprised at our average mpg on this truck.


How many miles before they wore in? What's your mileage figure?



When I was stuck in Erie a few weeks ago, the only trucks that actually got out of their parking spots without help were the ones with super singles. They just drove out without the problems of spinning the wheels that all the other trucks had. There was a 'pit' almost in front of me that was made by a volvo, if you didn't get a running start to get by it but most stopped to make the turn. The super single trucks coming from the fuel isle didn't have the problems getting out of the put. It was amazing to watch and I didn't think of filming them until the last one made it out.

Interesting, so what sort of conditions was that - pack snow, ice, a mixture? I forgot winter still hangs on some places - its all but over in WA, supposed to be 65-75 depending how close to the water you are.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Interesting, so what sort of conditions was that - pack snow, ice, a mixture? I forgot winter still hangs on some places - its all but over in WA, supposed to be 65-75 depending how close to the water you are.

heavy falling snow through he night, some packed, some fluffy during the morning and a slight thaw with a freeze during the evening.

Those two days showed the entire cycle of snow.
 

TeamCaffee

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Our tires took about 100,000 miles to wear in as we bought the deep lug instead of the standard tread. We would not buy the same tires again we would go with the standard super single tires. We average 10 mpg and with the way our truck is set up we are doing better then average.
 

Jack_Berry

Moderator Emeritus
i saw some flatbeds from ljk kennedy i think in fultonville ny a couple weeks back that were 10 wheelers. takes some getting used to. did not converse with the drivers.
 

jaminjim

Veteran Expediter
Linder, have you two considered going to a manual transmission on the next truck? From what little I have seen it makes a heck of a difference.
 

Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I saw my first SS gator a few months ago. Looked more like a giant snake with its body coiled and twisted and its head sticking up ready to strike. Wouldn't want to hit one of those with my little van.
 

TeamCaffee

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We have a Allison right now which is part of our problem and then also having a CAT engine does not help our fuel mileage. We have started specing our next truck and Bob is looking at a ten speed direct auto shift transmission. We are also watching what is happening with the Detroit Diesel engines and are very interested in the production of the DD 13.
 

highway star

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
It will be interesting to see how the new Detroit turns out. I was at a Detroit shop getting the Rigmaster fixed and I read the promo material while I was waiting. I know, grain of salt, obviously. But, after the Series 60, one would expect great things. Of course, Ford had a big hit with the 7.3 Powerstroke. It's successors, not so much.
 

piper1

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Waiting on the DD 13 also.

Had a chance to drive a DD 15......they got a winner, very quiet!
 

Jack_Berry

Moderator Emeritus
Right along with the debate on whether they are any good? I like the idea but am concerned about wet weather traction and to a lesser extent how they handle snow/ice.
also talked to a refueler driver at a pilot. he mentioned when the tanker was full the ss were fine but empty the tractor broke traction and the tank wandered more than with duals in the wet. this was january or feb i think.
 
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