talk about class warfare

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
Oh... "privilege of the rich", huh? How about "unlikely for the poor"? That's closer to the truth. My wife and I aren't rich by any means; but we know how to cook broccoli and asparagus, some chicken and rice stirfry, corn, potatoes, lentils (yuck), and fish. None of that is expensive. But I know, living near Detroit, that healthy foods in the intercity aren't found on every street corner, like McDs, KFC, and Taco Bell are. The grocery stores may or may not carry fresh fruits and vegetables.

Still... if there was any seriousness, there would be gardens in the backyards (for those who live in houses), and frozen veggies in the freezer. If there was any seriousness, the fast food places would be replaced with fruit stands.

I can't blame fast food for making a buck. But it's definitely not a "rich thing". It's a "smart thing".
 

tbubster

Seasoned Expediter
I liked how they point out salmon cost to much.Can get a bag with four 8oz servings in it for like 8 bucks at wal-mart,A bag of rice for 2 bucks fresh veg for three bucks and a bag of wheat bread for 99 cents.so for under 15 dollars a healthy dinner for four.Man a whole 15 bucks.Yep that sure is rich eating to me.:D
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
I liked how they point out salmon cost to much.Can get a bag with four 8oz servings in it for like 8 bucks at wal-mart,A bag of rice for 2 bucks fresh veg for three bucks and a bag of wheat bread for 99 cents.so for under 15 dollars a healthy dinner for four.Man a whole 15 bucks.Yep that sure is rich eating to me.:D

Oh yeah. Tilapia is cheaper, but doesn't have as many nutrients as salmon.

Buy some chicken thighs, debone em, cut em up, throw em in a wok with some frozen stirfry, cook up some brown rice, and you have a healthy meal that's not that expensive.

Btw... Japanese rice is slightly more expensive than white rice; but IMO, has a lot more flavor, and is more filling.

It has to do with laziness. If you're willing to spend some time in the kitchen, there are millions of cheap and healthy meals one could make. I'm sorry, but this article does nothing to prove the stereotypes of the rich; and everything to argue the stereotypes of the poor.
 

Turtle

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Retired Expediter
Well, the Yahoo headline of "Healthy eating is privilege of the rich" is more commentary than fact, as it's not really a privilege of the rich at all, but is a headline designed to get people mad at the rich. I saw the most commonly posted headline yesterday, that of "Study shows eating healthy costs more" and didn't have the energy to read it, because I couldn't believe that a study had to be done to illuminate the blindingly obvious.

The last line of the Yahoo article, thrown in almost as an afterthought, is in reality at the root cause of the problem. Farmers are subsidized to grow certain crops, nearly all of which are grains, which can be produced in copious amounts, which can be processed into cheap foods. These same grains make up the bulk of the Food Pyramid, which, in a shocking revelation, was designed by the US Department of Agriculture. The US Department of Heath has since the 1960's created their own Food Pyramid, which looks surprisingly like that of the Atkins Diet (lots of meats, and fresh fruits and vegetables in season, with vastly smaller amounts of grains, and zero processed foods), but administration and administration shoots it down in favor of the Department of Agriculture's version.

The current Food Pyramid was created in 1992, but the USDA guidelines go back more than 100 years. However, it wasn't until the "Basic 7" during WWII (because of rationing) that people started eating by the Guides. After the war, in 1956, a new Pyramid based on the "Basic 4" food groups was introduced, with grains playing the central role. Whole grain and enriched breads were especially recommended as good sources of iron, B vitamins and carbohydrates, as well as sources of protein and fiber. Includes cereals, breads, cornmeal, macaroni, noodles, rice and spaghetti. Farm supports and subsidies have been around since the early 1820, and there have been all manner of various Congressional Acts along the way. But the one that set the stage was the National School Lunch Act of 1946 to deal with surplus crops, then on the heels of that, and in concert with the 1956 Pyramid, was the Agricultural Trade Development and Assistance Act of 1954 (which heavily subsidized grains, corn and the like) and the Soil Conservation (Soil Bank) Act of 1956 which still in its current Conservation Reserve Program incarnation from the Food Security Act of 1985 is mostly about dairy and grain subsidies and the controlling of production.

No only does the Food Pyramid provide for cheap foods thanks to the bulk of the items on it being made from subsidized crops like corn, wheat and other grains, and dairy, it also coincides remarkably with the rise in Type II diabetes and the obesity that has ballooned since a few years following the 1956 introduction of the Basic 4 Food Pyramid. It should come as no surprise that the reason cows, and people, get fat is because they eat too many grains. And it should come as no surprise that subsidized foods like Cheerio's and Corn Flakes are gonna be cheaper than a bunch of unsubsidized carrots and Romain lettuce.

Here's the Reuters version of the findings (the headline I first saw yesterday and couldn't mustard the radish to go and read it), which mentions fighting obesity and the problems thereof.
Eating healthy food costs more money in U.S. | Reuters
 

Turtle

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Retired Expediter
You all know this is an AP story?
The Yahoo story is written by Donna Gordon Blankenship of the Associated Press. The Reuters story is written by Anna Yukhananov of Reuters. US News and World Report has their own version, as does the International Business Times and the BBC.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
Plenty of fish for poor people to catch, legally, in many parts of the country. Cheap way to provide fresh food. I know, I did it. Hardly any cost involved and well within reach of those on unemployment or welfare.
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
Plenty of fish for poor people to catch, legally, in many parts of the country. Cheap way to provide fresh food. I know, I did it. Hardly any cost involved and well within reach of those on unemployment or welfare.

You fished in Lake Erie? No wonder you're not right in the head. ;)
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
You fished in Lake Erie? No wonder you're not right in the head. ;)

What's wrong with Erie? My head is fine too, inside AND out! :p

Fish the straights of Detroit as well. Not to mention a half a zillion of smaller lakes, rivers and ponds every where I have ever lived. NONE are as good for the fish I like as Lake Erie and the "Straights" are.
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
What's wrong with Erie? My head is fine too, inside AND out! :p

Fish the straights of Detroit as well. Not to mention a half a zillion of smaller lakes, rivers and ponds every where I have ever lived. NONE are as good for the fish I like as Lake Erie and the "Straights" are.

I was talking about back in the 70s, when people didn't SWIM in Eerie.
 

Ragman

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Retired Expediter
You fished in Lake Erie? No wonder you're not right in the head. ;)

What's wrong with Erie? My head is fine too, inside AND out! :p

Fish the straights of Detroit as well. Not to mention a half a zillion of smaller lakes, rivers and ponds every where I have ever lived. NONE are as good for the fish I like as Lake Erie and the "Straights" are.

I was talking about back in the 70s, when people didn't SWIM in Eerie.

I seem to remember Lake Eerie catching fire. :eek:
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
I was going to post the link to the Eddie Murphy U-Tube on McDonalds and the "Welfare Burger"...but I tought better...but it is funny...:D
 

Falligator

Expert Expediter
There was a story that broke on CNN last week where the first lady convinced Walmart to bring a fresh fruit truck (like a food truck) into the inner cities and she also convinced CVS and Walgreens to start selling fresh fruit and vegetables in their stores depending on their location.

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Dakota

Veteran Expediter
What's wrong with Erie? My head is fine too, inside AND out! :p

Fish the straights of Detroit as well. Not to mention a half a zillion of smaller lakes, rivers and ponds every where I have ever lived. NONE are as good for the fish I like as Lake Erie and the "Straights" are.

Nothing beats the fishing in Oregon and Washington:p
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
Nothing beats the fishing in Oregon and Washington:p

Not for walleye. No where on earth is better for walleye than the Western Basin of Lake Erie and the Straights of Detroit. (Detroit River for those of you who either never had geography or failed it)
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
Nothing beats the fishing in Oregon and Washington:p

Not for walleye or yellow perch. No where on earth is better for walleye than the Western Basin of Lake Erie and the Straights of Detroit. (Detroit River for those of you who either never had geography or failed it)

There is good fishing in Oregon and Washington for sure, although it is only a ghost of what it once was. The rivers there are in sorry shape. Dams, silt and over fishing (commercial) have really taken a toll.

I would stack up the fishing in Michigan against those two states any day if you are talking about fresh water only. Michigan has no salt water fishing so that cannot be compared.
 

Pilgrim

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Retired Expediter
Study: Healthy eating is privilege of the rich - Yahoo! News

so now its the wealthys fault we get fat.thats some funny crap right there.:D

hey it worked thanks turtle!!

Most anyone with an IQ higher than 2 digits knows this article is just a bunch of malarky - as Greg pointed out, when it's attributed to the AP you don't even have to read it to know it's going to have a liberal bias. The problem is when it pops up on Yahoo News, how many of the younger generation take it as gospel with no inclination to think analytically about the subject matter. It probably never occurs to them that this article is just another volley of the class warfare agenda, and it's also probable that it ties in with what they were taught in their nutrition class at school (assuming that subject is still taught in public schools).

On the other hand, if the readers are "poor" enough to be on food stamps they can eat whatever they want - courtesy of your taxpayer dollars.
 

Falligator

Expert Expediter
Tom Arnold once said in a comedy routine, "America has the fattest poor people in the world." Then continued on about how other countries poor are malnourished etc, etc. Lol

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