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AMonger

Veteran Expediter
Too bad Lincoln didn't believe his own words. He was a tyrant and war criminal who fought against self-determination rather than for it.

This time around, it's either Ron Paul or the end of freedom in America. There is no other option, no matter how hard you wish otherwise. A vote for anyone else is a vote to destroy our own freedom and economy before our enemies can do it.

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mxzane933

Seasoned Expediter
If he doesnt get elected then the system cheated and was a unfair election. Revolution riders is my new gang evone hop in my van and lets turn some heads

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Doggie Daddy

Veteran Expediter
You have another option? One that results in freedom for Americans?

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You know the problem with bad cops? They make the other 5% look bad.


I haven' t made my choice yet, but for sure it wont be B.O., and R.P. isn't even on the short list.

I mean have you seen him lately? He doesn't look like he could last through a full term.

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mxzane933

Seasoned Expediter
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It's a little early to start the conspiracy theories isn't it?

It wouldn't be because this is the only one that truly standd for the constitution and our amendments and freedom and truth. He is the eletes nightmare someone that will nock the wind rite out if the globalist sails and they will do everything in their power to make sure there biggest enemy isnt out new chief of state

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RLENT

Veteran Expediter
Yes .......
Good .... yeah, it wasn't pretty ..... nor was it good for the body politic in terms of our health as nation.

If ya get a chance it's worth watching (IMNSHO) ....

HBO Films: Hacking Democracy

Irrespective of which party one concludes it reflects on (if one draws even those conclusions) and how, which I don't know that it actually does, it points out the problems we've got as a nation just in terms of the electoral process .... and again, IMNSHO, it's a really big deal.

It's not so much that the problems are new - they aren't .... it's just that technology has now made the potential for abuse of process possibly far more easy ... and possibly far more widespread.

It's something any honest citizen (and most really are), no matter their personal political philosophy or allegiance, needs to be aware of ...... and hopefully, seriously concerned about.
 

mxzane933

Seasoned Expediter
Good .... yeah, it wasn't pretty ..... nor was it good for the body politic in terms of our health as nation.


If ya get a chance it's worth watching (IMNSHO) ....

HBO Films: Hacking Democracy

Irrespective of which party one concludes it reflects on (if one draws even those conclusions) and how, which I don't know that it actually does, it points out the problems we've got as a nation just in terms of the electoral process .... and again, IMNSHO, it's a really big deal.

It's not so much that the problems are new - they aren't .... it's just that technology has now made the potential for abuse of process possibly far more easy ... and possibly far more widespread.

It's something any honest citizen (and most really are), no matter their personal political philosophy or allegiance, needs to be aware of ...... and hopefully, seriously concerned about.

On the money

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Monty

Expert Expediter
Good God Almighty .... that girl with the various metal objects sticking out of, and into, her skeers me enough without providing her a weapon! :eek:
 

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
I haven' t made my choice yet, but for sure it wont be B.O., and R.P. isn't even on the short list.

I mean have you seen him lately? He doesn't look like he could last through a full term.

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I specified "a choice that results in freedom" for a reason. Can you even NAME a recognized candidate other than Dr. Paul who is even proposing freedom? Name one. Just one.

And Dr. Paul is very healthy. As long as the GOP doesn't have him assassinated, I bet he lives another 15 years, and he's sharper than most people you know. If he wasn't, he wouldn't kick all forms of @$$ in debates.




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layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I specified "a choice that results in freedom" for a reason. Can you even NAME a recognized candidate other than Dr. Paul who is even proposing freedom? Name one. Just one.

And Dr. Paul is very healthy. As long as the GOP doesn't have him assassinated, I bet he lives another 15 years, and he's sharper than most people you know. If he wasn't, he wouldn't kick all forms of @$$ in debates.








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You can bet all you want the odds are very much against Paul living another 15 years. I would LOVE to know BEFORE the Michigan primary who his choice for VP is AND who he will be putting in for cabinet posts. He is going to need a VERY strong team to make up for his short comings.

As to him being assassinated, it is just as likely as that a union guy, New Black Panther member or welfare rat would do it as the GOP. ALL presidents are targets. Paul would not be any more or less.
 

RLENT

Veteran Expediter
I would LOVE to know BEFORE the Michigan primary who his choice for VP is AND who he will be putting in for cabinet posts.
No doubt you would - unfortunately, it would appear to be illegal (which is why Gingrich got in doo-doo for shooting his mouth off for saying he would appoint John Bolton as Secretary of State in pandering to the Republican Jewish Coalition)

Paul would not be any more or less.
That's where I would disagree - because everything Dr. Paul stands for flies directly against very, very big money - literally the entire M-I-B-C (military-industrial-banking-complex- those very nice folks that currently own your government)

All of the rest of the candidates more or less are for continuing business as usual - welfare/warfare - corporate cronyism at it's very finest.

To suggest that "a union guy, New Black Panther member or welfare rat" is just as likely as those who have billions and billions and billions of dollars are at stake is simply ludicrous ...
 
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layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
"To suggest that "a union guy, New Black Panther member or welfare rat" is just as likely as those who have billions and billions and billions of dollars are at stake is simply ludicrous ..."

Only in your mind. I don't believe he would be any more of a target than Obama or Reagan was. There are always "nuts" out there who would shoot a president. As to the others, I don't think it will happen. I believe they will find "other ways" to control Dr. Paul. Ways that are more "acceptable". They control the economy. They can kill a Paul presidency with the economic clout and not risk violent backlash from an assassination.
 

RLENT

Veteran Expediter
Only in your mind.
Uh-huh .... :rolleyes:

I don't believe he would be any more of a target than Obama or Reagan was. There are always "nuts" out there who would shoot a president. As to the others, I don't think it will happen. I believe they will find "other ways" to control Dr. Paul. Ways that are more "acceptable". They control the economy.
Only in your mind :D

They can kill a Paul presidency with the economic clout and not risk violent backlash from an assassination.
Dr. Paul is far more dangerous for reasons other than the possibility that he may be elected President - the most dangerous (to them) is that he is waking the citizens of this nation from a long slumber ... he is changing the dialog ..... and changing minds ......

That is incredibly dangerous ....... for some ..... ;)
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Only in your mind. I don't believe he would be any more of a target than Obama or Reagan was.

Seriously?

I haven't seen much in cutbacks to military suppliers by obama, just today I read that we are buying fighter planes from Brazil and missiles to the UAE - what does that tell you?

Reagan didn't interrupt the flow of money either, I seem to remember sometime around 1987 or maybe 1986, Sikorsky got some big contract to build some weird copter.
 
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