SWAT team attacks over student loan default

[AMonger]

How can anyone claim the cops are NOT out of control?

SWAT team busts into house
over student loan default
Posted on 06.8.11
By Sahil Kapur
Categories: Featured, Nation
Acting on orders from the U.S.
Department of Education, a
S.W.A.T. team broke into a
California home Tuesday at 6
a.m. and reportedly roughed
up a man — all because of his
estranged wife’s defaulted
student loans. She wasn’t
there.
Yet, Kenneth Wright of the city
of Stockton was grabbed by
the neck by handcuffed before
he and his three young
children were put in a police
car as the officers searched
his house, he told ABC
News10. He said he was in his
underwear the whole time.
“They busted down my door
for this. It wasn’t even me,”
Wright told the local news
station. “All I want is an
apology for me and my kids
and for them to get me a new
door.”
Local police were reportedly
not involved in the incident.
Watch the video, via ABC
News10.

 

[scottm4211]

Who knew the US Dep't of Education had such power?

 

[AMonger]

This will teach Widow Thurber to return library books on time!

 

[chefdennis]

Now we know why the Fed Dept of Education as line item in their annual budget to purchase weapons and firearms...they have their own "swat" team to enforce student load repayment...

 

[Turtle]

Clearly, there is more to this story than just a defaulted student loan.

From the Department of Education's Office of the Inspector General, spokeswoman Gina Burress provided the following statement:

"The Office of Inspector General does not engage in the collection of student loans. Our mission is to conduct criminal investigations related to the programs and operations of the U.S. Department of Education, which include the student financial aid programs. We can confirm that we executed a search warrant at the residence, however our policy is not to discuss details of our on-going work."

So obviously, something else is going on besides just defaulting on a loan, be it that the loan was obtained fraudulently or something that we're not being told as of yet. Until the entire story is known, no one can really legitimately say one way or the other if the cops are out of control.

 

[chefdennis]

I knew the article would resurface:

Education Department buying 27 shotguns
By Valerie Strauss
The Answer Sheet - Education Department buying 27 shotguns

Why is the Education Department purchasing 27 Remington Brand Model 870 police 12-gauge shotguns (all new, no re-manufactured products, thank you)?

The guns are to replace old firearms used by Education’s Office of Inspector General, which is the law enforcement arm of the department.

Here’s a statement from the office in response to a question about why need 27 shotguns with a 14-inch barrels:

“The Office of Inspector General is the law enforcement arm of the U.S. Department of Education and is responsible for the detection of waste, fraud, abuse, and other criminal activity involving Federal education funds, programs, and operations. As such, OIG operates with full statutory law enforcement authority, which includes conducting search warrants, making arrests, and carrying firearms. The acquisition of these firearms is necessary to replace older and mechanically malfunctioning firearms, and in compliance with Federal procurement requirements. For more information on OIG’s law enforcement authority, please visit their Web site at : www.ed.gov/oig”

You can find, here, a list of reports on fraud cases the office has worked on for the last decade.

I asked department officials for specific examples of when the rifles might be used, but was referred to the above statement. Perhaps agents need some muscle while apprehending folks charged with fraud.

Here's a link to an 11-page document from the Department of Justice with guidelines for the Offices of Inspector Generals within federal government department that have been given law enforcement authority. It provides detail about firearm training is to be carried out and under what circumstances authorized personnel can engage in law enforcement activities.

Below is the original soliciation request for the shotguns:


Solicitation Number:
EDOOIG-10-000004
Notice Type:
Combined Synopsis/Solicitation
Synopsis:
Added: Mar 08, 2010 10:39 am
The U.S. Department of Education (ED) intends to purchase twenty-seven (27) REMINGTON BRAND MODEL 870 POLICE 12/14P MOD GRWC XS4 KXCS SF. RAMAC #24587 GAUGE: 12 BARREL: 14" - PARKERIZED CHOKE: MODIFIED SIGHTS: GHOST RING REAR WILSON COMBAT; FRONT - XS CONTOUR BEAD SIGHT STOCK: KNOXX REDUCE RECOIL ADJUSTABLE STOCK FORE-END: SPEEDFEED SPORT-SOLID - 14" LOP are designated as the only shotguns authorized for ED based on compatibility with ED existing shotgun inventory, certified armor and combat training and protocol, maintenance, and parts.The required date of delivery is March 22, 2010. Interested sources must submit detailed technical capabilities and any other information that demonstrates their ability to meet the requirements above, no later than March 12, 2010 at 12 PM, E.S.T. Any quotes must be submitted electronically to the attention of [email protected], Contract Specialist (Contract Operations Group), with a concurrent copy to [email protected], Contracting Officer (Contract Operations Group).The following clauses are applicable to this requirement:
52-212-1 Instruction to Offerors - Commercial Items52.212-2 Evaluation - Commercial Items 52.212-3 Offeror Representations and Certifications - Commercial Items52.212-4 Contract Terms and Conditions - Commercial Items52.212-5 Contract Terms and Conditions Required Implementing Statutes or Executive Orders - Commercial Items
In accordance with 52.212-2, the fill-in applicable to this requirement is below:52.212-2 Evaluation-Commercial Items. As prescribed in 12.301(c), the Contracting Officer may insert a provision substantially as follows: Evaluation-Commercial Items (Jan 1999) (a) The Government will award a contract resulting from this solicitation to the responsible offeror whose offer conforming to the solicitation will be most advantageous to the Government, price and other factors considered. The following factors shall be used to evaluate offers: (i) Technical Capability(ii) PriceIn accordance with 52.212-5, the following clauses are applicable to this requirement:52.225-1 Buy American Act - Supplies (February 2009)52.232-33, Payment by Electronic Funds Transfer-Central
New equipment only; no remanufactured products. No partial shipments Offer must be good for 30 calendar days after submission.Offerors must have current Central Contractor Registration (CCR) at the time offer is submitted. Information can be found at ExpeditersOnline.com Expedited Trucking Owner Operator Careers and Truck Sales is a combined synopsis/solicitation for commercial items in accordance with Federal Acquisition Regulation Part 12, Acquisition of Commercial Items. The Government will award a commercial item purchase order to the offeror with the most advantageous offer to the government. All offerors must submit their best price and delivery capabilities.

Place of Delivery: U.S. Department of Education Office of Inspector General

 

[OntarioVanMan]

That explains a lot...Well fraud is a crime and they thought they were dealing with criminals...maybe some type of ring? who knows till the whole story comes out...

 

[Brisco]

That explains a lot...Well fraud is a crime and they thought they were dealing with criminals...maybe some type of ring? who knows till the whole story comes out...

Well, again, our Law Enforcing hater popped a story up that has no merit to it when it comes to how he worded the title for thread.

If Amon had just read a little bit into the story, and without the clear prejudicial hate he has for Law Enforcement, he might have had a differing opinion of it.

And again, no link to story, so here's one to people will know what's being referred to here.

Questions surround feds' raid of Stockton home | news10.net

Read the article, watch the video.........

My opinions:

Door was NOT kicked in due to delinquent student loans:

U.S. Department of Education spokesman Justin Hamilton confirmed for News10 Wednesday morning federal agents with the Office of the Inspector General (OIG), not local S.W.A.T., served the search warrant. Hamilton would not say specifically why the raid took place except that it was part of an ongoing criminal investigation.

Hamilton said the search was not related to student loans in default as reported in the local media.

Subject at hand was NOT held for 6 hours due to delinquent student loans as he claims to have been when holding up that piece of paper in the video. He was held while the investigation of his wife, estranged or not, was being conducted. Was probably just given that notice of his past due student loans as they were sending him home/releasing him.

Bet it went something like this, "You're free to go Mr Wright, and by the way, you are delinquent in your student loan payments. Please take care of this as soon as you can, OK."

My thought, his wife is involved in some sort of theft investigation by the department of ed for frauduantly obtaining several several thousands of dollars for student loans, possibly under multiple identifications. Or, might have been involved in one of those fly-by-night trade school type of operations that bilks the dept of ed out of hundreds of thousands or dollars, closes shop, and disappears off into the night only to show up somewhere else doing it again.

Again, My Opinion.................

Whatever the case, This Channel 10 who produced the story and aired it, needs to be fact checked before airing garbage like this. AND, Mr Wright here KNOWS what his wife is up to and why they are after her. Period................

 

[AMonger]

Well, again, our Law Enforcing hater popped a story up that has no merit to it when it comes to how he worded the title for thread.

I googled the story and what I typed is representative of all of them, including mainstream outlets. And I'm not a law enforcement hater; I'm a JBT hater.

If Amon had just read a little bit into the story, and without the clear prejudicial hate he has for Law Enforcement, he might have had a differing opinion of it.

I read the entire story, and years ago I read the story that Chef posted, and found that ridiculous and tyrannical then.

As is typical, the gummint hides behind the "ongoing investigation" excuse so they can concoct a story and try to keep it straight, just like when they recently murdered that man in Arizona serving a bogus warrant, shooting him dozens of times after claiming he fired on them (which would have been a reasonable reaction on his part), but then it later comes out that his rifle was on safe and never fired.

And again, no link to story, so here's one to people will know what's being referred to here.

Questions surround feds' raid of Stockton home | news10.net

I didn't paste a link because I had pulled up a few stories about it, had just picked one, and it's a bit of a pain going back and forth with pasting on a phone instead of a laptop.

My opinions:

Door was NOT kicked in due to delinquent student loans:

Subject at hand was NOT held for 6 hours due to delinquent student loans as he claims to have been when holding up that piece of paper in the video. He was held while the investigation of his wife, estranged or not, was being conducted. Was probably just given that notice of his past due student loans as they were sending him home/releasing him.

Bet it went something like this, "You're free to go Mr Wright, and by the way, you are delinquent in your student loan payments. Please take care of this as soon as you can, OK."

My thought, his wife is involved in some sort of theft investigation by the department of ed for frauduantly obtaining several several thousands of dollars for student loans, possibly under multiple identifications. Or, might have been involved in one of those fly-by-night trade school type of operations that bilks the dept of ed out of hundreds of thousands or dollars, closes shop, and disappears off into the night only to show up somewhere else doing it again.

Again, My Opinion.................

An opinion formed by your clear, slavering, badge-licking, servile nature in relation to anything in a government-issued costume. Yet, HE was there, the one held in a hot police car in his underwear, while you hadn't heard of this until you read it here. Given that he was there, and that the behavior he describes is entirely consistent with government today, until we can piece together more on this, his account is likely more reliable than your slavish opinion.

One day, you'll have your own run-in with militarized, JBT cops. Perhaps then you'll have a moment like comedian Dave Chapelle described when discussing police abuse when he said white people are now waking up and figuring out, "Uh-oh...the cops are beating up white people now."

 

[Tennesseahawk]

Sorry, but 27 shotguns aren't enough to fix the fraud and abuse in Detroit's school system. They aren't even trying. They'd need the Army AND the Marines.

 

[Turtle]

I googled the story and what I typed is representative of all of them, including mainstream outlets. And I'm not a law enforcement hater; I'm a JBT hater.

You know, I was going to defend you by telling Brisco that he should pay more attention to the post and not the poster, as he payed out far more effort in trying to debunk you, rather than the story. He gets some sort of twisted self-satisfaction out of winning an argument, or at least thinking he's won it, than he does in discussing the issues.

But I'm not going to do that , because of what you replied with above. No, what you typed wasn't representative of all of them. It was merely a skewed representation of the biased angle you wanted to present this story to be. I did the same Google and found all kinds of additional information, including that the poor soul left sweating in the car for 6 hours is probably lying or exaggerating to make himself look like a victim.

An opinion formed by your clear, slavering, badge-licking, servile nature in relation to anything in a government-issued costume. Yet, HE was there, the one held in a hot police car in his underwear, while you hadn't heard of this until you read it here. Given that he was there, and that the behavior he describes is entirely consistent with government today, until we can piece together more on this, his account is likely more reliable than your slavish opinion.

And with that, you can both stick to the issues and quit slamming each other. Sheesh.

You say what happened is consistent with how the government acts today, but you fail to mention, or realize, that Wright is acting consistent with someone who is trying to play dumb about something he knows ("Huh? What? I don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' no embezzled student loan money!"). Wright maintained that the raid was over late payments on a student loan, but that wasn't true, and he knew it. The original story that said it was in connection with a student loan has been taken down and replaced with an updated version of the story. Included are links to updated video.

Here's the actual search warrant (http://www.news10.net/news/pdf/Ed-dept-Wright-warrant-060711.pdf). If you read it, you'll see exactly what they were looking for, and why calling them out of control is almost certainly incorrect. It's also a striking example of how people grab onto this or that if it fits their agenda, regardless of how incomplete or inaccurate it might be, and then hammer it home as if it's gospel.

The Office of the Inspector General conducts about 30-35 search warrants a year on issues such as bribery, fraud, and embezzlement of federal student aid funds. Education Department Press Secretary Justin Hamilton said in a statement that the department "does not execute search warrants for late loan payments." So it appears that not only was the SWAT team not out of control, they didn't "attack over student load default," either.

Bottom line is, sorry, man, the cops may be out of control now and again, but ya can't use this instance to bolster your claim.

 

[Brisco]

And with this said right here:

Here's the actual search warrant (http://www.news10.net/news/pdf/Ed-de...ant-060711.pdf).

I expect an apology from both Amon with his rhetoric filled reply to my reply to his original post, and from Turtle for the rhetoric filled opening statement concerning my reply to Amons original post and Amons reply back.

Turtle may think I'm twisted at times, but that's probably because he's a little tooooo anal in his postings at time. Read what I said above. What I said was NOT trying to debunk Amon, he does that himself with his hate filled postings towards the Law, just trying to make a valid point about what the story actually was all about with a strong opinion as to why it happened. (the raid)

Thank you very much Turtle for proving almost EXACTLY what my opinion was as to why the raid took place.

Gummint out of control??? BS.....Clear hate towards Law Enforcement in the original post from the threads originator....Dead On.

I expect those apologies printed up in triplicate, signed in blood, and sent by certified mail, OK.

 

[Turtle]

What I said was NOT trying to debunk Amon...

DO you not read what you write? Of course you were. If you weren't, then the beginning of your reply, the statement that describes what it to come in your reply, would not have contained any of the following:

Well, again, our Law Enforcing hater popped a story up that has no merit to it when it comes to how he worded the title for thread.

If Amon had just read a little bit into the story, and without the clear prejudicial hate he has for Law Enforcement, he might have had a differing opinion of it.

And then you went on to tell us all why Amonger was so wrong. You could have done the same thing without those two paragraphs, and you'd have made the same exact point. It certainly seems a rare thing indeed when you post about a subject in which you voice a disagreement about, without also taking a shot at whoever you are disagreeing with.

I expect an apology from both Amon with his rhetoric filled reply to my reply to his original post, and from Turtle for the rhetoric filled opening statement concerning my reply to Amons original post and Amons reply back.

Well, my comment was hardly rhetoric filled. In any case, I can't speak for Amonger, but you'll get mine when I get yours for the recent Cliff Claven crack.

Turtle may think I'm twisted at times, but that's probably because he's a little tooooo anal in his postings at time.

Twisted at times? No. I think you're twisted all the time.

Thank you very much Turtle for proving almost EXACTLY what my opinion was as to why the raid took place.

You're quite welcome. But I'm just looking for more of the story and for the truth, not necessarily to prove or disprove anyone. And in the process, I hope to inspire others to look for the truth, rather than settle for ignorant and frothy.

I expect those apologies printed up in triplicate, signed in blood, and sent by certified mail, OK.

Seriously? Certified Mail requires the signature of the addressee, and a valid mailing address. You sure you want to do that? I mean, I still have your driver's license picture, I think, and it's a very good picture, BTW, but do you really want me to have your real name and address? I certainly wouldn't want me to have it.