Supposed non force dispatch.

BigWheeler · Apr 27, 2012

We have a few friends who work for a certain company that have a non forced dispatch policy, and have recently been reprimanded and put out of service for turning down loads. Is this a common thing, or is this happening only at there company? Has this happened to any of you ? We had it happen when we were at the FECC, but no longer have to worry because we moved to a carrier where we have control over our loads.
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Slo-Ride · Apr 27, 2012

Maybe not out of service but-----> Post it notes are widely used where I work.

They do put us to the bottom of the list (or the QC does) but a phone call Usually gets ya back in rotation where ya belong.

OntarioVanMan · Apr 27, 2012

Slo-Ride said:
Maybe not out of service but-----> Post it notes are widely used where I work.

They do put us to the bottom of the list (or the QC does) but a phone call Usually gets ya back in rotation where ya belong.

Hey..I know that carrier....LOL

Slo-Ride · Apr 27, 2012

shhhhhhhhhh

OntarioVanMan · Apr 27, 2012

Slo-Ride said:
shhhhhhhhhh

Quite a few carriers I think do that post it note thingee.....all the while bragging about a non forced dispatch....LOL

davekc · Apr 27, 2012

Thats what happens when the carrier is too dumb to understand the difference between a independent contractor and a employee.
That likely is a breach of your contract.

OntarioVanMan · Apr 27, 2012

davekc said:
Thats what happens when the carrier is too dumb to understand the difference between a independent contractor and a employee.
That likely is a breach of your contract.

3 refusals and John makes ya go golfing with him.....LOL

AMonger · Apr 27, 2012

davekc said:
Thats what happens when the carrier is too dumb to understand the difference between a independent contractor and a employee.
That likely is a breach of your contract.

While I'm completely against treating contractors like employees via pretend non-forced dispatch, there is the baseball principle. Like when an outfielder lets one drop that he could've caught had he hustled, some managers bench him for the rest of the day, saying, "If you wanted a day off, you should've told me this morning."

chefdennis · Apr 27, 2012

OntarioVanMan said:
3 refusals and John makes ya go golfing with him.....LOL

so thats where you went last month when you wanted to go west towards home from the yard and you TURNED 3 LOAD OFFERS IN A ROW DOWN...

..LOL, i remember Jeremy standing there laugh at you for that....

When you contract to a carrier that does the right things by their contractors and treats them as ADULTS and BUSINESS OWNERS, you dont have to worry about this kind of nonsense....just like, fines, taking freight off your truck because you don't have enough hours or dont have enough miles left in your day, starting your clock when you drive to dinner....all bs....

davekc · Apr 27, 2012

OntarioVanMan said:
3 refusals and John makes ya go golfing with him.....LOL

Is that a reward or punishment?

layoutshooter · Apr 27, 2012

davekc said:
Is that a reward or punishment?

Making me play golf would be a MAJOR punishment!

Slo-Ride · Apr 27, 2012

layoutshooter said:
Making me play golf would be a MAJOR punishment!

This is old and most of us seen it by now but I still laugh at it everytime Golf is talked about..

Language is not for kids..

Robin Williams golf - YouTube

(Sorry BigWheeler we are so far off topic now)

BigWheeler · Apr 27, 2012

Dave, you are right they have forgotten that we are IC,and that everything doesn't always make sense. Some have taken there job too personal and then turn around and try and control your financial outcome for the next week or so,it is a huge dirty little secret that someone will eventually end up in a lawsuit or class action due to breech of contract and lost wages.

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davekc · Apr 27, 2012

BigWheeler said:
Dave, you are right they have forgotten that we are IC,and that everything doesn't always make sense. Some have taken there job too personal and then turn around and try and control your financial outcome for the next week or so,it is a huge dirty little secret that someone will eventually end up in a lawsuit or class action due to breech of contract and lost wages.

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Some are already.

iceroadtrucker · Apr 27, 2012

Realy Dave tell me all about it ;-)

Dynamite 1 · Apr 27, 2012

so is landstar working out ok. we hope so, holler.

dletheridge · Apr 27, 2012

To try and get back on subject here.

Were they sure they were put out of service?

Ok now to get off of subject. I wish a certain carrier would add "bad business" as a legitimate reason to turn down a load.

BigWheeler · Apr 27, 2012

Really like Landstar ,and moving was right for us. As far as the questions I asked I would like to stick to them. It had happened to us and I called our CC and was immediately put back in service. Again non forced dispatch, when I choose to do a load or not ,should not be taken personally. Taken care of customers is vitally important and that's why I am an owner operator,customer service is important, and when I choose to do a load that is what they get,again when I choose to do a load not when someone else thinks I should. It is a business decision. As far as my friends are concerned I can not speak for them, nor do I assume to know the entirety of there situations. What I do know is that I would not have handled it so calmly, I would have consulted a lawyer, it was that abusive in power and tone.

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CharlesD · Apr 28, 2012

It's all a numbers game. I see a load a guy is close enough to, I tell him about it. If he wants it, I try to book it. If not, no big deal and I keep looking. Nothing personal. Frankly, I don't want contractors who need their hands held. Tell me why you don't want the load and we'll try again with the next one. We have a couple guys who never turn anything down and with them I try to book them the best possible thing I can find. If a truck does a garbage load and misses better freight as a result, or gets stuck somewhere too long, we both suffer. The more money the contractors make, the more money the company makes. Giving people lousy loads benefits nobody, except maybe the people who got their stuff, and the broker who still charged top dollar for the load.

ATeam · Apr 28, 2012

BigWheeler said:
Really like Landstar ,and moving was right for us. As far as the questions I asked I would like to stick to them. It had happened to us and I called our CC and was immediately put back in service. Again non forced dispatch, when I choose to do a load or not ,should not be taken personally.

Diane and I were with FedEx Custom Critical for eight years ending in June, 2011. Not once in those eight years were we put out of service for declining a load offer. However, yours is not the first report we have heard of this dispatch practice up in recent months. If it is not supposed to be happening, it would be wise for company officials to look into this. Being put out of service for declining a load would be demoralizing and provide an incentive to leave.

At Landstar, there is no penalty for declining a load. However, if you become known by the agents who dispatch the freight as one who repeatedly declines loads, it is their option to call other trucks. Indeed, it is their option to call other trucks anytime they wish.

Independence is a strongly held value at Landstar and it applies to agents too. Just as it is up to you to run your business as you see fit, it is up to agents to run their business as they see fit.