Suing the wrong group

layoutshooter

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the ACLU has it all wrong, AGAIN! They are suing the school system for the problems their children are having. The ACLU, and those kids, SHOULD be suing the parents. It is 100% the parents responsibility to insure that their kids are able to read and write.

I understand that the school system is bad, BUT, I MY kids were in that system they would be doing just fine. I would NOT allow the system to let them fail. That is EXACTLY what responsible parents do.

SO, ACLU, go after the lazy, dead beat parents, who are allowing this to take place. IF the system cannot be fixed, and it likely can't, put them in private schools, home school, or form you own schools.

To you dead beat parents, you made the kids, live up to your responsibilities.




[h=1]Horrific 10 Percent Literacy Rate Prompts ACLU to Sue Michigan Schools[/h]
What happens when almost all the 11th graders in an entire school district aren't proficient in math or reading? According to Michelle Johnson, a concerned parent in Michigan's failing Highland Parkschools, the kids "are going to be statistics. They are going to be in prison. They are not going to get the things they need in life."


Johnson makes her plea for support in the ACLU video The Right to Read: Protecting Michigan's Future, saying, "We need someone to step in now, or our kids are going to fail."


In the Highland Park school district, just outside of Detroit, only 10 percent of students from third to eighth grade are proficient in reading and math. As to be expected, the statistics get even worse as the students get older. Each year, kids in 11th grade take theMichigan Merit Exam to see if they are college-ready. In 2011, 90 percent of Highland Park students failed the reading portion, 97 percent failed the math section, and 100 percent failed the social studies and science portions.


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On July 12, the ACLU of Michigan, along with eight students, stepped in. They filed a first-of-its-kind class-action lawsuit against the state of Michigan, its agencies charged with overseeing public education, and the Highland Park School District for failing to take the necessary and effective measures to ensure students are reading at grade level.


Kary Moss, the executive director of the ACLU of Michigan, told TakePart, that "the lawsuit refers to the state constitution, which says that the state shall maintain and support a system of public education. The ACLU argues that this is not a system of public education."



During their investigation, the ACLU collected writing samples from a few of the children. One of these students is Quentin, a 14-year-old boy who just finished seventh grade yet is reading at a first-grade level. His letter will "break your heart," Moss said. "In the first sentence, he spells his name incorecctly."


You can view the letters in the legal complaint. Here is what Quentin had to say about his school:


My name is Quemtin and you can make the school gooder by geting people that will do the jod that is pay for get a football tame for the kinds mybe a baksball tamoe get a other jamtacher for the school get a lot of tacher.



Quentin is one of the 973 students attending Highland Park public schools. The district operates two K-8 schools and a high school that have been in the spotlight this year for their financial troubles and a move to appoint emergency managers for the schools. Moss explains that the state announced dissolving the district and scattering the kids to different schools, but they rescinded that decision and were planning to turn the schools over to a charter operator. No decision is final yet, according to Moss. "There has been no public announcement on whether they've awarded the contract to anybody," she says.


The bottom line, according to Moss is: "Everybody is talking about the corruption in the school board and the deficit, but nobody is talking about literacy and the fact that 90 percent of 12th graders aren't proficient in reading." The ACLU, Michelle Johnson, and a team of concerned parents are now making a point to put the interest of the children front and center. "We're trying to give these kids a voice," Moss says.


Horrific 10 Percent Literacy Rate Prompts ACLU to Sue Michigan Schools - Yahoo! News
 

AMonger

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the ACLU has it all wrong, AGAIN! They are suing the school system for the problems their children are having. The ACLU, and those kids, SHOULD be suing the parents. It is 100% the parents responsibility to insure that their kids are able to read and write.
This is a multi-generational issue. The parents are likely illiterate, also. They not only can't read and write themselves, but probably see no value in it.
I think it was writer Fred Reed, whose stuff has been posted here before, who pointed out the stubbornness of such multi-generational problems brought on by the welfare state. Entire projects-full of kids never see what we call normalcy: weddings, followed by children with two-parent households in which at least one of them works to bring home money and pay the bills. This has been the case for at least two generations.
At this point, how do we get back from this point? These children live in households in which literacy and achievement are completely foreign, conceptually.
 
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layoutshooter

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Personal responsibility. A parent who knows that their lack of ability COULD, if they chose to, work hard to improve their children's lives. It is a CHOICE. No one said it is easy, but good things are seldom easy. It boils down to choice and responsibility. Far too many came to this country, unable to speak English have THRIVED. They mad the EFFORT that is needed. All it will take is stop blaming every one else for your problems, "man up" or "woman up" and insure that the children YOU made have the tools they need.
 

skyraider

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Michigan's school problems are never going to be solved. Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia and so on have the same problems. Tons of money are poured into the states and for what, nothing happens.
Nashville, Tennessee goes through School Superintendents like water over the dam. Many of the public schools students can't pass the Army's basic skills test they give at the recruiters office. Those students that go to private schools have no problem with the test.

I agree it is the parents responsibility to insure their kids get the help they need to make it out here, but education is not a priority anymore in the inner city imho.


Read this and you got the Picture here in Chattanooga:

Brainerd High School principal warns of threat more dangerous than gangs | timesfreepress.com Right here in Chattanooga tn, read it and weep
 

Missie600

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We live in a "someone else is responsible" society. When we were growing up you had to own up to your faults and try to do better. Today we can put the blame on everyone but ourselves.

I love your posts Layoutshooter! My hubby is constantly saying that you and he are the same man. I admit you two have very similar views.
 
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chefdennis

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So basically, this article is saying the the Department of Education isn't really doing it too well...how can that be?? They are a Federal Program put in place by the democrat left...you know, to help make it fair for everyone....
 

Ragman

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They are a Federal Program put in place by the democrat left...you know, to help make it fair for everyone....

And supported by every adminisration since it's begining, including everybody on the republican right.

Lets be fair about it. The blame is everyones.
 

chefdennis

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And supported by every adminisration since it's begining, including everybody on the republican right.

Lets be fair about it. The blame is everyones.

Ahh Nooo, Reagan and then while he wasn't President, Gingrich also tried to eliminate it...and the left would have nothing to do with it....as for supportting, i guess if you consider the continued funding of it as support then yea...but no...its just another over reach my the Fed into something that is the states and local responcibility....No Federal dollars should have ever been allocated for it, just like most of the Fed programs....
 
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layoutshooter

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No one has a 'right' to read. Everyone who is capable of learning to read does have a responsibility to do so.

This is NOT a problem of the failed government, it IS the problem of parents who have failed their children.

The more responsibilities we hand over to the government the more problems we are going to have.
 

BigCat

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I blame video games and laziness. I'll bet those kids read every word to young jeezys lyrics. I'm not being racist but that's how it is. Put some Ebonics in and I'll guarantee they can read it because that's how they were taught to read by their illiterate.

I took the asvab once for the army ng and passed with a 79. Must have learned something all those times my mom made me do homework and study...Hmmmm go figure.


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AMonger

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Personal responsibility. A parent who knows that their lack of ability COULD, if they chose to, work hard to improve their children's lives. It is a CHOICE. ... All it will take is stop blaming every one else for your problems, "man up" or "woman up" and insure that the children YOU made have the tools they need.
Thing is, they aren't even aware of the choice, I don't think. As I pointed out, getting an education and/or some skills and going to work to earn a living isn't a concept in the underclass's collective head, any more than a 2-parent household is. To the people we're talking about, teaching your children the tools they need is telling them where to sign up to collect their "benefits," and how to ask for an employee to fill out the forms for them. Multi-generational dependency is a way of life for them. It's all they know. The Demon-crats started it and lots of Republicans went along with it.
 

LDB

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If they did what they should which is require a high school diploma when applying for a driver's license you'd see a far higher rate of graduation. You can't be surprised by the ACLU being on the wrong side of an issue though. Other than the rare aberration they are always on the wrong side. They are the blind squirrel.
 

layoutshooter

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The BEST way to start solving this mess is to shut down the U.S. Department of Education. Get the feds out of education and things will start to improve. Then get the states out of it. ALL education should be local and controlled solely by those who pay for it. NO government intervention. (interference)
 

piattteam

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amonger will love this!
So, the mean ol' cops were going to use chemical spray!?
What would you recommend they use to disperse ILLEGALLY assembled masses, whom have refused repeated LAWFUL orders to disperse?
Should they "manhandle" them?
Should they use the good ol' night sticks?
Maybe the mean ol' cops should just not show up. Let everyone do as they wish, fend for themselves.
Then, once the mayhem was over, everybody would complain because the cops didn't do enough!! (They were probably all out at the local highway construction zones, "getting revenue" from the 85% of motorists who choose to speed through work zones!)
 
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