Some Days

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
There are just some days that it just don't pay to get out of bed. This month has not been our best. The past week was REALLY bad. This morning the APU just shut off. The error said that there was an "undervolt" problem. Now, when we get the chance, we have to get that fixed. When it rains........... :(
 

jjoerger

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
US Army
We do not have an APU so must idle to stay cool.
The owner of our repair shop in Florida swears that you would be better off putting the 10k into an interest bearing savings account and keeping it for an engine rebuild when it becomes necessary. He claims that the APU's break down and require too much maintenance and upkeep to make them worthwhile unless the fuel goes over $4 per gallon.
 

jackdixon_2000

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Never have had an APU here, neither. But being I stay out west over half the year I don't have much use for one. I have only idled the truck 3 nights so far this year. If the weather is bad I get an occasional motel or I used to use idleair a few times a year.
Joerger, is you're truck cab blue? I went by the Pilot in Dunnigan on Saturday morning on my way to Portland and saw a blue Fedex truck in the lot, jus wondering if that was you?

It looks like Joe got out of Denver, if thats any consolation. Anyway there are no White Glove trucks in the Denver express center.

Loadin up now in Reno deliverin in the mountains east of Fresno tomorrow and reload back to Reno
 

Scuba

Veteran Expediter
We do not have an APU so must idle to stay cool.
The owner of our repair shop in Florida swears that you would be better off putting the 10k into an interest bearing savings account and keeping it for an engine rebuild when it becomes necessary. He claims that the APU's break down and require too much maintenance and upkeep to make them worthwhile unless the fuel goes over $4 per gallon.


I have 12000hrs on my apu which means @0.02 gal per hr = 240 gals of fuel the trucks engine uses at least 1 gal per hr to idle which =12000 gals of fuel @ $3.00 per gal @ 240 gals =$720.00 12000 gals @ $3.00 = $36000 for a savings of $35280.00 over the past 4 years go to a new shop lol
 

jjoerger

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
US Army
Never have had an APU here, neither. But being I stay out west over half the year I don't have much use for one. I have only idled the truck 3 nights so far this year. If the weather is bad I get an occasional motel or I used to use idleair a few times a year.
Joerger, is you're truck cab blue? I went by the Pilot in Dunnigan on Saturday morning on my way to Portland and saw a blue Fedex truck in the lot, jus wondering if that was you?

It looks like Joe got out of Denver, if thats any consolation. Anyway there are no White Glove trucks in the Denver express center.

Loadin up now in Reno deliverin in the mountains east of Fresno tomorrow and reload back to Reno

No, we are a white Columbia, currently sitting in Ontario.
 

jjoerger

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
US Army
I have 12000hrs on my apu which means @0.02 gal per hr = 240 gals of fuel the trucks engine uses at least 1 gal per hr to idle which =12000 gals of fuel @ $3.00 per gal @ 240 gals =$720.00 12000 gals @ $3.00 = $36000 for a savings of $35280.00 over the past 4 years go to a new shop lol

I don't mean to be picky but shouldn't that be 0.2 gallons per hour.
Most APU's that I have looked at burn @ 0.4 GPH as an average.
Our truck burns 0.8 GPH with the AC on.
By the time we buy an APU, maintain it and pay for the fuel, plus have it repaired everytime it brakes and lose time while it is in the shop it seems like it would take 4 years to pay for its self.
Since we don't plan on keeping this truck for 4 years it doesn't seem like a wise investment for this truck.
 
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ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
We do not have an APU so must idle to stay cool.
The owner of our repair shop in Florida swears that you would be better off putting the 10k into an interest bearing savings account and keeping it for an engine rebuild when it becomes necessary. He claims that the APU's break down and require too much maintenance and upkeep to make them worthwhile unless the fuel goes over $4 per gallon.

Your repair shop owner might be interested to learn about Onan generators. We purchased ours new with the truck in 2003 and have 8,000 hours on it now. In that time, it has been in the shop once for a repair. That was in the first month. A defective fuel pump was cheerfully replaced under warranty at no charge to us. Otherwise it has been trouble free, unless you consider oil, filter and coolant changes trouble. I do those myself so the only cost out of pocket maintenance cost is for the oil, coolant and filters. There is no down time for maintenance as it is done between loads when we are in service or done when we are out of service for other reasons.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot. The drive belt gave up the ghost somewhere around 6,000 hours. Having a spare in the truck, I replaced it myself.

The fuel pump repair was made at one of the dealers in the nationwide Onan dealer network. It was in Salt Lake City. They got us in immediately and we waited one day for the part to be overnighted in. We have visited several Onan dealers over the years to buy filters and a replacement belt. The facilities are easily found, modern and clean. They serve the high-end RV market mostly. It's more pleasant dealing with them than many truck dealers.

Eight thousand generator hours would equate to 8,000 hours of engine idling if we did not have the generator. At a gallon per hour for truck engine idling, that's 8,000 gallons of fuel or $24,000 at $3.00 a gallon. The generator uses fuel too, but nowhere near a gallon an hour.

At $10,000 for an Onan generator and 8,000 hours of truck engine idling wear and tear saved, it's hard to figure that you would be money behind by buying a generator.

We would buy an Onan generator for a new truck again, even if fuel was then selling for $2.00 a gallon. Anti-idling laws are enforced here and there at least. I like the freestanding electric power source the generator provides when I am running electric tools to work on the truck. And I especially like letting the big truck engine rest.
 
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layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
There is also the "no idle" laws and the "air police" to consider. This unit was on the truck when we bought it. Had I been specking a new truck I would have went Phil's route. Best idea out there.
 
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