Soldiers Return

[FIS53]

Today as has happened before another soldier returned from the Afghan conflict in a box. The family was probably on the tarmac to meet the casket and travel along the highway to Toronto to the coroners office.

It is a sight and thought provoking to see the numbers of citizens holding flags, standing on the overpasses to welcome home the fallen. The numbers have grown from the few for the first couple of soldiers to what we see now.

It's great to see the support, patriotism and thanks given our soldiers.

Something I was wondering. Why does the US not have the families meet the caskets on return to US soil? Our military arranges for them to be at Transport Command when the aircraft arrives and on the tarmac for the ceremony (if they want to be there). I know this isn't possible during a major conflict with large numbers of casualties, but what with the smaller numbers.
Rob

 

[layoutshooter]

It is possible to arrange it. It is not often done because down here there is a real possibility that our media and "other well meaning groups" would make a circus out of it.

Layoutshooter

 

[LDB]

I think that's the polite way of saying those scumbag, dirtbags from Kansas, and other groups that aren't fit to be allowed to live in this country, would be their usual not worthy of living trash selves by besmirching the hero's return.

 

[layoutshooter]

You are WAY more polite than I am Leo!!! Amen Brother!!

Layoutshooter

 

[mjolnir131]

I think that's the polite way of saying those scumbag, dirtbags from Kansas, and other groups that aren't fit to be allowed to live in this country, would be their usual not worthy of living trash selves by besmirching the hero's return.

i and my brothren have swore to protect and defend morons,i just wish they would stop breeding

 

[OntarioVanMan]

A soldiers "homecoming" should be a private affair....NO PRESS...NO PROTESTERS....It's no one elses business. Unless the family agrees...

 

[LDB]

A soldiers "homecoming" should be a private affair....NO PRESS...NO PROTESTERS....It's no one elses business. Unless the family agrees...

Tell that to the sub-human scum from Kansas and elsewhere who disrupt solemn events.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Tell that to the sub-human scum from Kansas and elsewhere who disrupt solemn events.

I can't understand...those people from Kansas..or wherever...Don't they have family? don't they themselves expect privacy.....maybe we should hunt them down and invade their space and broadcast it....

 

[layoutshooter]

Won't happen OVM. Those of us who believe in family, privacy and the solemn nature of these things are now the "Bad Right Wing Nuts" in this country. Protests that disrupt are glorified by the "Normal Left" as needed to make peace. They have no reguard for peoples feelings or others beliefs. They only see a chance to exploit, ridicule and belittle. Layoutshooter

 

[greg334]

OVM,
Leo and others are referring to the Westboro Baptist church who have been going around "protesting" gays and other sins of the country. They say that it is the fault of the soldier who died because they are fighting for a country that is immoral. Their website URL says it all - godhatesamerica - kind of like a neo-nazi group when you come down to it but a lot worst.

Being a 'right wing' fringe member who is actually a classic liberal that I am, I find the entire group rather disgusting and it is one of the few times that I feel freedom of religion has gone way too far and needs to be checked not only by the citizens of the country but followed up with the government (local) intervention when the protests take place.

There is a lot more to their leader and their twisted way of life, they used and abused the laws to make a sick point, more so than any other group did and could. They are in all intent and purpose equal to some of the very fringe right and left groups and in other ways more dangerous. They have been banned from entering the UK, of all places with their liberal allowances and maybe they should be banned from other countries.

 

[layoutshooter]

Greg, what is a "Classic Liberal"? Not trying to be a butt head here, I just don't understand the term. Since everyone has thier own idea how they stand I wish to know what you think a "Classic Liberal" is? Layoutshooter

 

[letzrockexpress]

I can't understand...those people from Kansas..or wherever...Don't they have family? don't they themselves expect privacy.....maybe we should hunt them down and invade their space and broadcast it....

Are you refering to the group "God Hates Queers"? They're a bunch of total psychos. They go to the homes of soldiers killed in Iraq and tell their wives and mothers that they deserved to die because they went over there to "kill babies", etc. A real bunch of A-holes....

 

[letzrockexpress]

OVM,
Leo and others are referring to the Westboro Baptist church who have been going around "protesting" gays and other sins of the country. They say that it is the fault of the soldier who died because they are fighting for a country that is immoral. Their website URL says it all - godhatesamerica - kind of like a neo-nazi group when you come down to it but a lot worst.

Being a 'right wing' fringe member who is actually a classic liberal that I am, I find the entire group rather disgusting and it is one of the few times that I feel freedom of religion has gone way too far and needs to be checked not only by the citizens of the country but followed up with the government (local) intervention when the protests take place.

There is a lot more to their leader and their twisted way of life, they used and abused the laws to make a sick point, more so than any other group did and could. They are in all intent and purpose equal to some of the very fringe right and left groups and in other ways more dangerous. They have been banned from entering the UK, of all places with their liberal allowances and maybe they should be banned from other countries.

Are you saying you are classic Liberal?

 

[layoutshooter]

That is was I was told when other similar "Left Wing" groups in the '60's used to spit on sodiers in uniform at airports. That happened to me at Detroit Metro. Or like the bunch that threw two saliors down an elevator shaft in Boston the first weekend I was stationed there. The assumed and said that if they killed more AMERICAN soldiers and saliors that we would have PEACE on earth. When William Ayers group was running around bombing targets in the U.S. and killing policemen. Extreme groups are always bad. It does kind of amaze me in one respect, all those wackos who ran around in the '60's calling those of us in uniform "BABY KILLERS" are now the same bunch that call themselvs "Pro-Choice" and run around screaming to insure a non-exsistant "Right" to kill babies. The mind bogles. Layoutshooter

 

[letzrockexpress]

That is was I was told when other similar "Left Wing" groups in the '60's used to spit on sodiers in uniform at airports. That happened to me at Detroit Metro. Or like the bunch that threw two saliors down an elevator shaft in Boston the first weekend I was stationed there. The assumed and said that if they killed more AMERICAN soldiers and saliors that we would have PEACE on earth. When William Ayers group was running around bombing targets in the U.S. and killing policemen. Extreme groups are always bad. It does kind of amaze me in one respect, all those wackos who ran around in the '60's calling those of us in uniform "BABY KILLERS" are now the same bunch that call themselvs "Pro-Choice" and run around screaming to insure a non-exsistant "Right" to kill babies. The mind bogles. Layoutshooter

Yeah I know what you mean....Kinda like a pro-lifer blowing up an abortion clinic with a pregnant woman inside. The mind does indeed boggle...

 

[layoutshooter]

Correct, wait until all the people are out and THEN blow it up!! The murder must be stopped. Layoutshooter

 

[mjolnir131]

Greg, what is a "Classic Liberal"? Not trying to be a butt head here, I just don't understand the term. Since everyone has thier own idea how they stand I wish to know what you think a "Classic Liberal" is? Layoutshooter

I take it to mean true Liberal and not the un-liberal thinking that the left uses today.

Liberal in the Classic sense means using new ideas to solve our problems . It does not mean getting in the way of the environment , commerce and indevidual rights.

 

[layoutshooter]

That is how I take it. I wanted ot hear what Greg thinks it is. Greg is a very thoughtful person who's posts I truely look forward too. I love to bounce ideas off of him. Layoutshooter

 

[mjolnir131]

Correct, wait until all the people are out and THEN blow it up!! The murder must be stopped. Layoutshooter

by people you mean hostages right. Otherwise that Cancer will just spread to elsewhere

 

[letzrockexpress]

I take it to mean true Liberal and not the un-liberal thinking that the left uses today.

Liberal in the Classic sense means using new ideas to solve our problems . It does not mean getting in the way of the environment , commerce and indevidual rights.

I will wait for Greg's definition of "classic liberalism." I suspect it is probably similar to what you have described, much like a libertarian philosophy.