SNOW & ICE

HARDDRIVE

Expert Expediter
Hi Everyone

Quick question..

Regarding Snow & Ice.

Is the driver responsible for removing the snow & ice build up on the roof of their truck?
AND
Who is @ fault or responsible if Ice comes crashing down on another driver or car?

Hasn't happened to me yet ..
Seen alot of big chanks of ice on the roofs of trucks along the Thruways just hanging on.

73s

Hard Drive
 

Peace2All

Expert Expediter
You are responsible. It is the same as if rocks were between your tires. IF one is lodged and you miss it on pretrip and it hits another vehicle or person you are held liable.

You should not have this problem when the sun is out. The sun will usually take care of the snow and ice for you. You can check by simply opening your trailor doors and looking at your roof. If not, don't move that truck without being free of any debris.

Has this happened to anyone yet? I know I have heard of truckers being sued for tools falling off of their flatbeds, rocks between their tires dislodging, retreads, etc.
 

tec1959

Expert Expediter
Hardrive also just FYI you can also be fined if your over height on the turn pikes or toll roads that have a height restriction,Because you may sound off the alarms,I read a post here the other day where a driver got a $250 fine for being over height because of ice and snow...
 

rode2rouen

Expert Expediter
>You are responsible. It is the same as if rocks were
>between your tires. IF one is lodged and you miss it on
>pretrip and it hits another vehicle or person you are held
>liable.

Are you sure? Who could say with certainty when the alleged rock became wedged between the duals?? It could have been just lying in the road.

>
>You should not have this problem when the sun is out. The
>sun will usually take care of the snow and ice for you. You
>can check by simply opening your trailor doors and looking
>at your roof. If not, don't move that truck without being
>free of any debris.

What if you're in Frostbite Falls,MN and the sun is out but it's -15 degrees? Ain' no melting gonna happen that day! Us folks with aluminum roofs can't "...simply open the trailer doors...". Any tips on clearing the roof??? Waiting for the sun to melt it off is a bit impractical.

>
>Has this happened to anyone yet? I know I have heard of
>truckers being sued for tools falling off of their flatbeds,
>rocks between their tires dislodging, retreads, etc.

Tools falling off of a flatbed could be an act of negligence resulting in a lawsuit, but rocks and gators (and maybe even snow on the roof) are another issue.

I'm just playing Devil's advocate.


Rex
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
I think, Tec, you might be mixing up 2 recent posts - mine, where I was fined $30 for being overheight on the Ohio Turnpike, and another driver who was given a $250 ticket for not scaling his van in Michigan, because they dropped the weight for pulling in to 5000 lbs, but didn't publicize the fact.
I could be wrong, of course - it has happened a time or two.....;)
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
Oh yeah - when I set off the overheight signal on the turnpike, due to about a foot of snow on the trailer, the attendant told me to drive thru, then uturn & come thru again, which would knock the snow off. I did, & it worked - but I was charged the extra $30 when I exited - 4 hrs later! x(
 

BigBusBob

Veteran Expediter
Driver
HardDrive, what happened to your post on starting up a truckstop???
Many replied and you never said another word...
did the idea not appeal to you after awhile?
Just curious... many good replies to your post. check it out.

Regarding the snow and ice... I had so much snow and ice on the landing gear of the trailer you couldn't even see the landing gear!
I had snow and ice all over the 5th wheel, and there was ice all over the front of the tractor, snow on the trailer and ice all over.

I've still got ice on the trailer and haven't run "in" snow in 2 days. Tonite may be different...
light flurries, goin' east across I-70
 

Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Rex, next time you are in Frostbite Falls, MN. say hi to Rocky and Bullwinkle for me. Must kiellll moooose and squirel.

Thanks, Boris
 

geo

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Retired Expediter
US Navy
in nj you can be fine if snow and ice fall off the trailer or truck
been that way a few year's now. and can be fine for over weight to in some states with all snow and ice
 

Peace2All

Expert Expediter
If you get loaded and you don't take into consideration the snow and ice on your truck and you have snow and ice build up on your vehicle, you will get an overweigh ticket at the scale house. I guarantee you. IF you cause an accident because a slab of ice hits someone's car you will be held liable.

It is gross negligence to leave a heavy build up of snow and ice on your truck and trailor. You are asking for a lawsuit. It should not be on the road if it is covered in snow and ice.

If you are in a state where it gets that cold and the clouds are hiding the sun from melting the ice on your roof then you probably should not take the chance and drive that way. This would leave me to believe that the highways are shut down anyway.

So you know I did not cover your type roof. In fact, I simply answered with a concise and pithy answer. Not all areas were covered. I was in Wyoming covered in snow which included highway shut downs, and the sun even though it was freezing took care of my roof. It always does unless it is cloudy. The sun still shines even in cold weather. The clouds are what stop the sun from doing its job.

I guess someone needs to come up with a spray that you can cover your roof with that melts the ice without doing damage to the roof. Does anyone know if this has been made available? I carry an empty pestide spray canister that I fill with a salt mixture. it takes about 20-30 minutes, but if the roads are bad I don't bother. You just have to make sure that you get to a truck wash to get it off. This spray also comes in handy when the customer fails to clear the path to the dock. No load is worth your life!

I have also been informed of a trailor tarp that you remove after the snow has stopped, and that by placing cardboard over the windshield helps keep your windshield wipers free as well as keeps ice from forming on the windshield.

The trailor tarp is a great idea. Too bad I did not come up with that one. Anyway, any other comments would be appreciated:)
 

rode2rouen

Expert Expediter
>Rex, next time you are in Frostbite Falls, MN. say hi to
>Rocky and Bullwinkle for me. Must kiellll moooose and
>squirel.
>
> Thanks, Boris



Moot,

I plan on heading up there as soon as I find the key to my WayBack Machine. I've gotta stop off in the '70s for some "recreational commodities".

Will pass on yer regards!


Rex
 

Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Rex, don't north of Frostbite Falls, MN with any recreational commodities. There is an international border and Dudley DoRight is waiting on the other side.
 

younglobo

Expert Expediter
dudley doright , rocky and bullwinkle some folks are showing there age here . Back to the ice on the truck , here in good ol Missoura having freezing rain is common and i must admit after my truck sat for one day i did sling some ice onto the hwy after it had melted seen it in my rear view , someone called later and said i had broke there winshield to important things to remember make sure they can get the Truck # and description , some folks like easy money. Was pretty bonhead move on my part just didnt think and maybe four wheelers should think a little more and stay back during or after bad weather safe following distance comes to mind, but I am the professional so maybe blame falls on me , nothing happened anyway so i grew wiser for it.
:p
 
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