Short haul defined....HOS

[OntarioVanMan]

[h=1]FMCSA Clarifies 'Short-Haul' Exemption to HOS Rules[/h]

JOC Staff | Aug 08, 2013 10:49AM EDT
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Following a federal court decision, regulators say they will “immediately” cease enforcing a rule requiring short-haul truck drivers to take daily 30-minute breaks.
A federal appeals court Aug. 2 struck down the break requirement in new truck driver hours of service rules — but only for short-haul trucking operators.
Other commercial truck drivers must take a break of at least 30 minutes after eight consecutive hours of on-duty time without rest, according to the rules.
Complete coverage of trucking hours of service.
The decision led to short-term confusion over the definition of "short-haul" trucking, and whether it included local drivers with commercial drivers licenses and non-CDL drivers.
In a statement providing guidance, the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration opted for the more inclusive definition, including both short-haul CDL truck drivers operating within 100 air-miles of their base location and non-CDL drivers operating within 150 miles of their base.
A new rule-making will incorporate the guidance into the regulations, the FMCSA said.

 

[Slo-Ride]

You didnt think big union trucking companys where going to allow this did you? Most local drivers would end up with a paid 30 min break resulting in huge payroll increases across the country. I seen this coming as soon as I seen the video from the hearing posted a few weeks ago. If there is money involed its not going in favor of the trucks or drivers anymore.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

You didnt think big union trucking companys where going to allow this did you? Most local drivers would end up with a paid 30 min break resulting in huge payroll increases across the country. I seen this coming as soon as I seen the video from the hearing posted a few weeks ago. If there is money involed its not going in favor of the trucks or drivers anymore.

and who says unions/Teamsters are dying...they still have the power....

 

[Slo-Ride]

Im thinking the Unions lost on this one..They lost a chance at a paid 30 min break resulting in possible 30 min overtime..I would think if there was money behind this decision it came from big bussiness and not the unions???

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Im thinking the Unions lost on this one..They lost a chance at a paid 30 min break resulting in possible 30 min overtime..I would think if there was money behind this decision it came from big bussiness and not the unions???

they are living on the edge as well.... some of these carriers are fighting off bankruptcy....the 30 minute break could be the deal breaker....many jobs would be lost for awhile....it may have been in the unions best interest to side with the carriers on this....

 

[Slo-Ride]

Many of us are/can be running 1 flat tire away from going under including some vans @ one time or another and I dont care how big ya are. Trouble can hit anyone of us at any time. Noone is making expemtions for them/us. This was suppose to be about rest and not saving the FedX and UPS trucking companys countless of dollars in overtime pay.

This maybe a stuipt statement but why can a patrolman work 20 hours a day with a pistol in his hands making life and death decisions without proper rest.. How can he get involed in high speeds chases if he has been on duty for more then 8 or 10 hours? ( I agree stuipt statement but I hope you see what Im getting at. Whats good for one should be good for all.)

 

[layoutshooter]

Many of us are/can be running 1 flat tire away from going under including some vans @ one time or another and I dont care how big ya are. Trouble can hit anyone of us at any time. Noone is making expemtions for them/us. This was suppose to be about rest and not saving the FedX and UPS trucking companys countless of dollars in overtime pay.

This maybe a stuipt statement but why can a patrolman work 20 hours a day with a pistol in his hands making life and death decisions without proper rest.. How can he get involed in high speeds chases if he has been on duty for more then 8 or 10 hours? ( I agree stuipt statement but I hope you see what Im getting at. Whats good for one should be good for all.)

What about that family, mom and pop just worked an entire day. 1 hour drive to work, 1 hour back home. Put in a full 8 1/2, including lunch, day. THEN leaves and drives 18 hours straight to Disney World? How safe are they?

The list is endless. These regulations are a joke.

 

[beachbum]

When I worked short haul or local, I got the 30 min lunch (unpaid) but I worked by the hour then. Union drivers get breaks, where as, non-union drivers take it in the shorts from companies.

You didnt think big union trucking companys where going to allow this did you? Most local drivers would end up with a paid 30 min break resulting in huge payroll increases across the country. I seen this coming as soon as I seen the video from the hearing posted a few weeks ago. If there is money involed its not going in favor of the trucks or drivers anymore.

 

[Slo-Ride]

When I worked short haul or local, I got the 30 min lunch (unpaid) but I worked by the hour then. Union drivers get breaks, where as, non-union drivers take it in the shorts from companies.

Ive never been paid to eat lunch..Even when in a Union I gave up my lunch periord. As it should be.. Only place Ive seen this is at the executive end of any organization. Wheter its on the golf course or at the local tavern the boss aint giving up 30 min of his day.