Saying "no" to cheap freight!!

Tennesseahawk · Feb 19, 2015

scottm4211 said:
Is it Sunday already?

Is Sunday the day we get to talk about making our industry better? Used to be a 7 day thing around here.

OntarioVanMan · Feb 19, 2015

Dynamite 1 said:
Do you know who this mike guy is ? Tell us, we would love to know.

the guy at the top of the thread Gonzo.....gee whiz...

Tennesseahawk · Feb 19, 2015

Unclebob said:
We drive vans. Some of us have expensive vans and some have cheap vans. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to drive a van. Anyone that can scrape up $4,000.00 can buy a van and get in this business. If they fail their will be 2 more to replace them.

We live in a capitalistic society which means you have to be able to compete or fall by the wayside. This is a very competitive business with no skill sets required.

We can complain about low rates and we will have as much success as when we complain about the weather. We need to find ways to stay competitive. That could mean cutting expenses. It could mean stressing to our customers why we're worth a higher rate. Don't be surprised if that second path is all uphill.

Vans ain't the only vehicle on the road. It's not always about THE VAN. It just so happens that it's, like you said, a lot easier to get into the van side of things. Even a caveman can do it. Just so happens that cavemen like lower rates.

OntarioVanMan · Feb 19, 2015

There so literally thousands of people we don't see doing this....from the hotshot gang... to the trailer haulers...to the father in law with a pick up whos son is the plant manger hauling this stuff....we here are a drop in the ocean to the big picture

OntarioVanMan · Feb 19, 2015

Tennesseahawk said:
Vans ain't the only vehicle on the road. It's not always about THE VAN. It just so happens that it's, like you said, a lot easier to get into the van side of things. Even a caveman can do it.

how about them straights running for buck and half...? same thing

Tennesseahawk · Feb 19, 2015

Dynamite 1 said:
Do you know who this mike guy is ? Tell us, we would love to know.

He's the owner of C&M.

Dynamite 1 · Feb 19, 2015

OntarioVanMan said:
the guy at the top of the thread Gonzo.....gee whiz...

You know what I meant. SO !!!!!!!!!!!!!

OntarioVanMan · Feb 19, 2015

wish Mike had of established a baseline of what level of cheap?...Like does he have a number to throw out?....

OntarioVanMan · Feb 19, 2015

Dynamite 1 said:
You know what I meant. SO !!!!!!!!!!!!!

can't read a mind that is blank pal......LMAO.....poke poke

Tennesseahawk · Feb 19, 2015

OntarioVanMan said:
how about them straights running for buck and half...? same thing

I'm sure Mike was talking about the industry as a whole. Some people want to make it only about the van.

Dynamite 1 · Feb 19, 2015

OntarioVanMan said:
can't read a mind that is blank pal......LMAO.....poke poke

Just checkin to see what you know. MISTAKE, on my part !!!

Dynamite 1 · Feb 19, 2015

Tennesseahawk said:
He's the owner of C&M.

I knew Thawk. Just being, well, you know.

What up Mike !!!!!!!!

coalminer · Feb 19, 2015

Tennesseahawk said:
He's the owner of C&M.

Haha glad you said that before I said something stupid.....don't want to get banned from doing the entertainment loads....

Dynamite 1 · Feb 19, 2015

coalminer said:
Haha glad you said that before I said something stupid.....don't want to get banned from doing the entertainment loads....

Thats one of your staples !!!!!!

OntarioVanMan · Feb 19, 2015

Tennesseahawk said:
I'm sure Mike was talking about the industry as a whole. Some people want to make it only about the van.

it is a bigger world....

Unclebob · Feb 19, 2015

Tennesseahawk said:
Vans ain't the only vehicle on the road. It's not always about THE VAN. It just so happens that it's, like you said, a lot easier to get into the van side of things. Even a caveman can do it. Just so happens that cavemen like lower rates.

I think straight trucks and tractors should definitely get more than they do. I wouldn't want to put up with the hassle of driving either of those. But definitely not at the rates people are talking about.

Getting into either of those takes a lot more investment and training.

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aquitted · Feb 19, 2015

coalminer said:
Haha glad you said that before I said something stupid.....don't want to get banned from doing the entertainment loads....

Ah yes the C & M entertainment loads I remember them well they were always good.
Mike P Whats up my Brotha?

Tennesseahawk · Feb 19, 2015

Unclebob said:
I think straight trucks and tractors should definitely get more than they do. I wouldn't want to put up with the hassle of driving either of those. But definitely not at the rates people are talking about.

Getting into either of those takes a lot more investment and training.

I agree about straights and t/ts. They definitely have their share of low-bidding neanderthals. "Ug, me got get home. Me bid low make sure me get home." "Me want miles. Miles make money."

If you can find customers who are looking for quality, you can sell them that quality for a good chunk o' bux.

highway star · Feb 19, 2015

Opel2010 said:
And many of them don't care if they drive for less, they care to run all the time.

Ah yes, the "at least I'm movin'" crowd. I've never heard of one of them that had any success in expediting. Numerically challenged bunch, those folks...