Safty net

moose

Veteran Expediter
Dose costume sleepers have to come with a safety net ?
you know , that seat belt type net to restrange a sleepy Co. driver as the truck is moving...
my sleeper came without .
sells man Did not know .
manufacture of the sleeper say no.
all integral sleeper i drove before had it .

do you have it in your truck ?


Moose.
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
Our custom sleeper came without a sleeper restraint and the manufacturer said the law does not require them in custom-built sleepers. Since most of their customers do not ask for them, they are not included. We wanted one and they made one up special to fit our bed size and preferences.

Getting one made is not as easy as you might think. There are folks out there who can sew together the straps and buckles. But when they hear it is for an automotive application (their words) they shy away because of liability concerns.
 

Crazynuff

Veteran Expediter
I don't really see an exception for custom built sleepers under occupant restraint . 393.76
You know an officer with an attitude could find a vehicle without restraints in violation .
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
We got a sleeper restraint so an exception would not matter even if there was one. I pointed out the same reg to our vendor and got the answer they gave. I did not push it since it was not an issue for us.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Getting one made is not as easy as you might think. There are folks out there who can sew together the straps and buckles. But when they hear it is for an automotive application (their words) they shy away because of liability concerns.

Huh?

Getting one is not hard, I got a few out of a truck recycle yard a couple years ago - cheap. There are a few companies that will sell them or you can always order one from Freightliner/Volvo/Mack/KW.

For the brackets and mounts, the ones I have use seat beat connections so it is not difficult to to even get new ones relatively cheap.
 

ThibodeauxBayou

Not a Member
Getting one made is not as easy as you might think.

You're correct.

You can't just yank some OEM restraint out of a junker and expect it to fit. Depending on placement of bunk, you'd have many mounting point and net dimension issues to deal with. Obviously, a net pulled from a KW will virtually have no chance of fitting without numerous modifications. Common sense would tell you, you'd need one fitted for most aftermarket sleepers.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
You're correct.

You can't just yank some OEM restraint out of a junker and expect it to fit. Depending on placement of bunk, you'd have many mounting point and net dimension issues to deal with. Obviously, a net pulled from a KW will virtually have no chance of fitting without numerous modifications. Common sense would tell you, you'd need one fitted for most aftermarket sleepers.

Well Thib, there is some truth to what you said, you can’t just yank it out of a junker and expect it to fit.

You got to use some common sense by measuring the area that you are using for and making sure that the restraint will work for the placement of the bed. The last time I looked there are six mounting points with most of these nets (two more mounts are used to make the ‘tent’ out of the restraint), and they are not a big deal to figure out how to use the restraint in a custom sleeper unless the sleeper is poorly made in the first place.

For the beds where they are placed with the head of the bed against the back of the sleeper, the restraint can be placed at the end of the bed to conform to the regulations. What good is the restraint when it keeps you in the bed laterally but when the truck stops hard, you go flying out of the end of the restraint?

Yep you are right, common sense is what is needed, and which means use the info I provide to give anyone an idea where to find a solution. By far to use some common sense to figure out how to mount a restraint system that will at least slow you, a passenger or 'stuff' that is sitting loose in the sleeper in an impact is far better than getting a ticket by some ***** of a DOT officer who is having a bad day.

The regulation is clear; the restraint is there to prevent injury from deceleration.

I have a custom sleeper and both Volvo and KW restraints both fit the upper and lower bunk, rather well – so the ‘virtually no chance’ is wrong. I have no problems mounting the anchor points and using it.

The idea that a custom restraint is difficult to find, well that’s wrong too. There are a lot of companies that can do custom work and conforms to the SAE safety standards. They are not cheap like a reclaimed part and may require some planning on the part of the owner with the help of the company. You both make this out to be something on the level of a space shuttle part.

Just speaking about common sense, where is the common sense when the salesman says "the manufacturer said the law does not require them in custom-built sleepers", especially purchasing a $250k apartment on wheels? Isn't that like having the salesman saying because you have an apartment on wheels which is a contained unit, you are an RV and don't have to log?

Maybe the feds need to look at custom sleeper manufactures to investigate them to see if there should be some special third party rules in the regulations on the manufacturing of these 'units'. You may not know this being in the Deep South that the OEM (that is Original Equipment Manufacture) tests the strength of the truck, the sleepers and the components to conform to some kind of standards; they don’t just throw them together. Unlike these custom manufactures, they have an interest in how they put together their products. I can tell you from practical experience that some of these sleeper manufactures sell poorly made products in the first place and age brings out the worst of them.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
HaHa....yer a funny lil man

but, I know how to spell original equipment manufacturer

Well I had to take a stab, seeing that you all are smarter (no unions, a governor who can spell jobs and jobs!) than us up here in the former place they call the motor city. :)
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Well I had to take a stab, seeing that you all are smarter (no unions, a governor who can spell jobs and jobs!) than us up here in the former place they call the motor city. :)

And here I thought it was called Boater City...

Maybe Oil City would be more apt...since all the politicians seem to be made from "Slick50":eek:
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
And here I thought it was called Boater City...

Maybe Oil City would be more apt...since all the politicians seem to be made from "Slick50":eek:

So you been watching this mess too?

It makes no difference what people want to think, if you want to see the country under Obama in two years look at detroit now.
 

Crazynuff

Veteran Expediter
Then there's the liability issue . The co-driver is injured when thrown from the bunk in a wreck . Insurance company asks why restraints weren't in use . Not equipped with them ? Custom sleeper manufacturer faces a lawsuit .
BTW , how many of you actually use the restraints while using the sleeper ?
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
Being a smidgen claustrophobic, unrestrained is how I prefer to be. (Though I can make exceptions, given the right incentive);)
 

arrbsthw

Expert Expediter
Then there's the liability issue . The co-driver is injured when thrown from the bunk in a wreck . Insurance company asks why restraints weren't in use . Not equipped with them ? Custom sleeper manufacturer faces a lawsuit .
BTW , how many of you actually use the restraints while using the sleeper ?

I use them in my truck. I sleep much better. Not worried that
I will be thrown thru the windshield if my husband has to
slam on the brakes etc.
 
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