Ron Paul
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dieseldiva
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Mr. Paul although better than most is still like the rest of them. He likes to add some pork for his district then when he is sure it has enough votes to pass votes against it so he can say he did not vote for pork. He certainly is not my man and personally think he does not have enough mass appeal to beat Obama even with the economy like it is.
One thing about Ron Paul is that he's consistent in his positions and beliefs. A lot of what he says sounds good, but his isolationist policies don't fit today's world. After tonight's show in SC, I'll have to admit to being a lot more interested in Herman Cain. Pawlenty did pretty well also. Johnson and Santorum should just stay with offices on the state level.
dieseldiva
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I have to agree with your picks. Glad to see you were impressed with Mr. Cain, I've been watching him for a while now.
EASYTRADER
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I like Ron Paul also but I don't think he can win a general election. If he gets the n.omintion I'll support him. So far though i'd say Herman Cain is the man, heck I even gave him a campaign contribution tonight!
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Ron Paul won't win and if he did he's not tough enough on terror. You don't give rights etc. to terrorists. I would reluctantly give him my vote as a vote against Obama but he's nowhere near as strong a candidate as some of the others. We need someone feared globally not someone laughed at globally.
Tennesseahawk
Veteran Expediter
Mid 70s... not my idea of a presidential candidate. But a younger version of Ron would work. I'm on the Herman Cain bandwagon. His fiscal conservative ideals are just what this country needs. However, I doubt we'll ever get a balanced budget amendment. The feds going into debt means the states are given more candy. And weening them off big government candy is like weening an alcoholic off of Johnny Walker.
greg334
Veteran Expediter
Really, I mean really ... tough on terrorist?
Who in the hell has been in the past 40 years?
It took 9 years to find someone who was living in a house near a Military training facility for 6 years - THIS says a lot about our military and our intel groups.
Bush and a republican congress gave them the rights, etc ... to those who were caught by us and our allies because they could have stopped every court case that was filed but refused to do so.
How many soldiers were prosecuted under the Bush administration?
What others?
Herman Cain?
Out of that bunch, I don't see one I could vote for and Cain and Paul are the top contenders in the group. The problem I saw was a lack of conviction among the others, they seemed to all pander for the local group and the cameras.
Again who could that be?
I don't want a trump who will fire Pakistan. I don't want a retread from the last election - our problem is we don't have leaders in these groups who is willing to stand and fight but followers - including many of the military people who been mentioned.
Remember how Clinton gutted our military and intelligence agencies? It takes a long time to rebuild intelligence personnel, especially in Arab areas that are so sensitive to outsiders. Considering what the Obama administration is now doing we may never get back to where we should be in intelligence capabilities.
How many enemy combatants did the Bush Admin. deposit in Gitmo for the purpose of being held there indefinitely or tried by military tribunals? Remember the ACLU and the other liberal groups rushing to defend the rights of terrorists, and in doing so held up the process indefinitely?
Pandering to the local group was certainly part of their game plan in anticipation of the SC primary. Regarding Cain, he's certainly got a good resume as an executive who gets things done and makes good decisions. Also refreshing that he's not a career Washington politician. However, that could be his downfall unless he hooks up with somebody that's been effective getting things done in Washington.
Tennesseahawk
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Personally, I'd like to see a Cain/Romney ticket. If the moderates want their man, let him take second seat. Between the two, I see tons of practical, common sensical business experience.
greg334
Veteran Expediter
Crap Clinton? try again... try Carter and Reagan.
It seems that even IF Clinton could be blamed for a lot, it was a republican congress who went along with it - Newt ring a bell?
Congress has a direct say in these departments and organizations and it is easy to blame Clinton or Obama but when a republican president has a republican congress but nothing seems to get really fixed, then what does that say - 9 years to find one guy living at one place for 6 years.
AND beside all of that, the one problem we still have is the egotistical groups within the federal government who still don't share intel like then should. Clinton and those who put up the wall of silence still have their imprint in these agencies and all Bush did was make a larger mess of all of it.
Rebuild? we never had a strong Middle East operations and we are still struggling to get something solid there.
AND how many have been released to fight again?
Bush and the DoJ could have worked with congress to put a stop to every lawsuit that was filed on behalf of every person in Gitmo but they didn't. They let things progress to the point that the terrorist still has rights.
It wasn't just the liberals and the ACLU who were rushing in, a lot of people on the republican/conservative side of things were not too keen on what was going on and they too voiced their opinion - let's see ... didn't John McCain sponsor a bill on some torture issues?
I think, like Ron Paul, he is speaking to the people like they want to hear people speak to them. Cain, like Paul has an attraction that may have something to do with the fact they are not speaking the same way and saying the same thing like the others.
Herman Cain - He has stated one more than one occasion that there is no need for an audit of the Federal Reserve, that it's working just fine as is, they have no hidden secrets. Instead, if you want to know about the Federal Reserve and how it works, you should just call them up and ask one of the Federal Reserve PR people to explain it to you. 
Herman Cain - No Need To Audit the Federal Reserve
Oh, and he also twice served as Deputy Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank in Kansas City.
Herman Cain - No Need To Audit the Federal Reserve
Oh, and he also twice served as Deputy Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank in Kansas City.