Ron Paul won't speak at the RNC

[AMonger]

Not that it should have happened in the first place; you don't cast pearls before swine.

Why No RP Speech at the RNC?

A typically awful NY Times article contains this interesting info:

Mr. Paul, in an interview, said convention planners had offered him an opportunity to speak under two conditions: that he deliver remarks vetted by the Romney campaign, and that he give a full-fledged endorsement of Mr. Romney. He declined.

“It wouldn’t be my speech,” Mr. Paul said. “That would undo everything I’ve done in the last 30 years. I don’t fully endorse him for president.”

 

[layoutshooter]

Not that it should have happened in the first place; you don't cast pearls before swine.

Why No RP Speech at the RNC?

A typically awful NY Times article contains this interesting info:

Mr. Paul, in an interview, said convention planners had offered him an opportunity to speak under two conditions: that he deliver remarks vetted by the Romney campaign, and that he give a full-fledged endorsement of Mr. Romney. He declined.

“It wouldn’t be my speech,” Mr. Paul said. “That would undo everything I’ve done in the last 30 years. I don’t fully endorse him for president.”

He BARELY spoke when he was running. That was just ONE of his biggest problems, he is a HORRIBLE public speaker. I have heard better sounding traffic accidents. He was so BORING!! DRY TOAST! NO FIRE IN THE GUT! WIMPY! NO ZEAL! I hope that gets the point across. If he spoke at the convention he would put everyone asleep.

 

[Turtle]

He BARELY spoke when he was running. That was just ONE of his biggest problems, he is a HORRIBLE public speaker. I have heard better sounding traffic accidents. He was so BORING!! DRY TOAST! NO FIRE IN THE GUT! WIMPY! NO ZEAL! I hope that gets the point across. If he spoke at the convention he would put everyone asleep.

Thank you for not trolling here, and for adding some deeply thought out opinions on the subject. These are certainly the kinds of posts that spawn intelligent discussion, despite nothing mentioned here having anything to do with having the speech vetted by the Romney campaign or with him fully Romney. Excellent post!

 

[xiggi]

I for one am glad he is not speaking. He had his shot and the people voted.

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[layoutshooter]

Thank you for not trolling here, and for adding some deeply thought out opinions on the subject. These are certainly the kinds of posts that spawn intelligent discussion, despite nothing mentioned here having anything to do with having the speech vetted by the Romney campaign or with him fully Romney. Excellent post!

Trolling? I don't think so. I expressed my opinion of Paul, as it my right. I also have not use for Romney or his thoughts, ideas, or his beliefs in regards to Paul. I believe I have been consistent in that from day one. I don't like Paul's style, lack of fire, and his lack of belief in himself. He is NOT a leader. In that regard his is much like Obama and Romney.

While I did like SOME of Paul's ideas, he had ZERO ability to put them across to those who are voting. IF he could, HE would be the one running against Obama and NOT Romney.

 

[xiggi]

I can't get this record unstuck.

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[Turtle]

I can't get this record unstuck.

It's called being consistent.

 

[layoutshooter]

It's called being consistent.

What is wrong with being consistent? Is flip flopping better? You have YOUR opinion and I have MINE. Your's is based on your education, background and beliefs. Mine is based on my education, background and beliefs. Neither is more valid than the other. You considered my post as 'trolling', well, so be it. I consider many of your's the same. SAMEO SAMEO!

 

[Turtle]

What is wrong with being consistent? Is flip flopping better?

Being consistent is a good thing. Being a broken record is not.

 

[layoutshooter]

Being consistent is a good thing. Being a broken record is not.

I don't have any records any more. Whining about how Paul could not get his message across is a broken record. He EARNED his loss.

I do miss my record of John Glenn's first orbital flight, but it got broken. I don't miss any other of my records.

 

[Turtle]

I don't have any records any more. Whining about how Paul could not get his message across is a broken record. He EARNED his loss.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but you're the only one whining about how Paul could not get his message across.

 

[layoutshooter]

Not to put too fine a point on it, but you're the only one whining about how Paul could not get his message across.

So glad you keep this on subject and not personal. Seems to me I was commenting on the fact that Paul was not speaking at the convention. Pointed out why I thought he was not, and should not, and did not mention names or persons. But it's all good I don't whine about Paul's failure, I am happy he did.

 

[AMonger]

I don't have any records any more. Whining about how Paul could not get his message across is a broken record. He EARNED his loss.

No, he had victories stolen from him by criminals who belong in prison. Whether those small would-be victories would have added up to a bigger victory, no one knows.

 

[layoutshooter]

No, he had victories stolen from him by criminals who belong in prison. Whether those small would-be victories would have added up to a bigger victory, no one knows.

You have your opinions, and I respect them. I have mine, I don't wish to argue. I know thing were not right. BUT, it are how it are. IF he had been better, he would have overcame. He was not, so he could not. That is my belief.

 

[xiggi]

No, he had victories stolen from him by criminals who belong in prison. Whether those small would-be victories would have added up to a bigger victory, no one knows.

I knew that was coming. No theft has been proven it is only accusations. The guy couldn't even win his own state. He never came close to the nomination he knows that it is his supporters that can't let it go.

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[wvcourier]

I knew that was coming. No theft has been proven it is only accusations. The guy couldn't even win his own state. He never came close to the nomination he knows that it is his supporters that can't let it go.

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Are you serious?? You must not have been paying attention. Go back to watching CNN or Fox.. The GOP and mainstream media stole this election from Ron Paul. From the begining in Iowa with the fake Rick Santorum surge..the establishment was running scared for a minute...now its back to your regularly scheduled BS

Dont steal, the government hates competition. ~Ron Paul~

 

[Pilgrim]

Let's face it - the Romney group didn't want him to speak, so they offered him conditions to which they knew he wouldn't agree. His message obviously wouldn't be in sync with the theme they have planned for the convention. Life goes on.

 

[davekc]

I knew that was coming. No theft has been proven it is only accusations. The guy couldn't even win his own state. He never came close to the nomination he knows that it is his supporters that can't let it go.

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I would agree. Nothing has been proven and that was from supporters rather than Ron Paul himself. Couldn't have been too bad if Rand is speaking.

At least Romney is running a video of his accomplishments. No point to go farther than that. What would be the point at a Romney party to have the elder Paul say what he would do? Little too late and no one likes a party pooper.

 

[Turtle]

In an uncontested convention every speaker is assumed to be supporting the one with the most delegates, so to ask Ron Paul to have his speech vetted by the campaign, and for him to support Romney, isn't exactly a watershed event. It's quite the norm. Just as is Paul not being willing to stray from his principles.

 

[Turtle]

So glad you keep this on subject and not personal. Seems to me I was commenting on the fact that Paul was not speaking at the convention. Pointed out why I thought he was not, and should not, and did not mention names or persons. But it's all good I don't whine about Paul's failure, I am happy he did.

I didn't make this personal at all. I'm responding to what you typed. Period.

As for you pointing out why you thought he was not, and should not speak at the convention, frankly that would indicate you didn't even read the OP, as it states quite plainly and succinctly why he won't be speaking. For you to introduce your own unsubstantiated account which is completely different from the ones stated in the OP, not only changes the topic of the thread, but posting it with all the hot-button terminology in an all-caps pejorative manner smacks of trolling specifically to get a rise out of Paul supporters. That, or you think we're all stupid because we didn't get it the first 2137 times you posted about Paul's lack of fire in his gut or how boring you find him. We got it already. Sheesh.