Ron Paul seeks vote to end foreign aid

RLENT

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From ForeignPolicy.com:

Ron Paul seeks vote to end foreign aid to Egypt, Israel, Jordan, and Pakistan
By Josh Rogin

Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) and his son, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), have not been shy about their desire to end all U.S. foreign aid. This week, the elder member of the Paul family is seeking a full House vote on an amendment that would cut $6 billion of U.S. aid to a host of Middle East countries.

Rep. Paul is trying to build support for an amendment to the fiscal 2011 funding bill that would end all foreign assistance to Egypt, Israel, Jordan, and Pakistan. The funding bill currently being debated by the House, called the continuing resolution (CR), is needed to keep the government running after March 4.

"Stop buying friends overseas, save $6 billion!" reads the headline of a Dear Colleague letter Paul sent to all House offices on Tuesday. In past years, amendments like Paul's, which is not supported by leadership, would not have received a vote because congressional leaders had limited or even prohibited amendments during spending debates. But this year, House Republican leadership decided to use an "open rule" for the CR, giving every member of Congress the right to bring an amendment and have it debated.

There are currently over 400 amendments pending to the bill, and yet somehow the House leadership wants to finish debate this week. Whether they can really do that remains unclear, but even if they succeed, the bill would go to the Senate and then perhaps back to the House once more with new changes from the Senate. House Budget Committee chairman Paul Ryan (R-WI) has said that another short-term temporary funding measure might be necessary to keep the government running while the legislative process continues.

Regardless, if Paul's amendment gets a vote, it would be the first time the entire House would vote on whether or not to give $6 billion to these foreign governments. The vote would come in the midst of the largest American fiscal crisis in a generation, which could increase the chance that it would attract significant support.

"Borrowing money from China -- or printing it out of thin air -- to hand out overseas in [an] attempt to purchase friends has been a failing foreign policy, as we see most recently in Egypt where there is not even a government in place!" Paul wrote in his Dear Colleague letter. "We should seek friendly relations and trade overseas, but we cannot justify lavish gifts to foreign leaders when American taxpayers are increasingly feeling the pain of our economic crisis."

Paul, along with his son, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), represent the libertarian wing of the Tea Party movement, which has been throwing its weight around Congress since the new session started in January. Like-minded members have also been pushing the House GOP leadership to make deeper cuts to the foreign assistance budget. For example, on Jan. 20, the 165-member Republican Study Committee put out a plan that would drastically defund the U.S. Agency for International Development.

While there is probably enough bipartisan support for aid to Israel to defeat Paul's amendment, the debate over continued funding for other Arab countries is more complex. Some GOP heavyweights, like House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA), have suggested scuttling all foreign aid that is not designated for staunch U.S. allies such as Israel. House Foreign Affairs Committee chairwoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL) has argued for restricting aid to the Egyptian government unless it excludes the Muslim Brotherhood from any representation in the new parliament.

Other leading Republicans, especially in the Senate, have voiced support for continuing U.S. assistance to Egypt and Jordan. Sen. Mark Kirk (R-IL) is working behind the scenes to craft an aid package to the CR that would fully fund the president's request for foreign aid to Egypt, Jordan, and Israel. Aid to Pakistan, which totals over $1.5 billion each year, has strong support from Senate Foreign Relations Committee heads John Kerry (D-MA) and Richard Lugar (R-IN).

Regardless, Paul's amendment represents the rising tide of opposition to foreign aid and the increased difficulty of defending such aid in Congress.

"We cannot afford to have ‘business as usual' when we are bankrupt," he wrote.

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greg334

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The only problem I can see with this is the idea that we are buying friends overseas, I don't think we are buying anything especially friends.

IF Foreign Aid directly benefits US citizens within the borders, then that's ok, but can anyone tell me where it would or is directly benefiting US citizens within the borders?
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
I have no problem cutting down and some day eliminating foreign aid. I would, however, go at it in a different way. I would first cut ALL payments/aid, of ANY type to those who seem to be our enemy. Like Russia, Venezuela so on and so forth.

With all the unrest in the Middle East I would be looking hard at what kinds of aid were being afforded and to whom. I would back the aid in that region slower. That region is very unstable right now.
 

greg334

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Layout,
You have to ask yourself this about the middle east.

With the money we dump there, and the lack of influence we actually have with those countries who get our money, isn't about time we actually examine what outcomes we have had there with the money we dumped there?

For example, Egypt has been keeping a lid on terrorism and other issues that affect Israel and other parts of the world but now with the new government and the Muslim Brotherhood being a legal entity again, why should we send money to them without the assurance that there will a government that will keep a lid on things?

Another example is Iraq, who just the other day has demanded that we give them a billion dollars to rebuild Baghdad, based on the damage the US caused by overthrowing the old government. Iraq is now a lot safer than it was but our influence has dwindled and the sacrifice is now being questioned. The objective that I feel was the main objective has spurred on the 'revolutions' as many in the arab community have predicted but the cost of continuing the aid to Iraq and what we eventually get is not justified anymore.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
I said I would have to look a what kind of aid was going to whom. I never said that I would not cut back on or cut out aid in any region.

Every problem we face in this country is the result of decades or centuries of mistakes. They will not be fixed in one or two years. They are long term problems that require long term solutions. Short term thinking is what got us into this mess, it will not get us out.

We need to be planning far into the future. A problem that was 100 years in the making is likely to take at least 25 years to fix.
 

Falligator

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I see a path to isolationism. I like Ron Paul and his Fair Tax system. Maybe this will wake up these countries who neglect their citizens.

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greg334

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Well I don't think he's advocating isolationism more than retraction of involvement through our dollar.

By the way, the last I heard, he doesn't support the Fair Tax at all.
 

moose

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I used to like this guy...
Oh, well.

actually ,am not very wise, when it comes to other country's. but when it comes to Israel, this is not a hands out, it is by large money being spent right back in the American economy .
or maybe US armed forces needs enough F-35's to keep supporting productions. same goe's to GM, Lockheed Martin's ,and many many more.
There are MANY voices in Israel saying exactly what RP is saying,
they are being shut by massive American manufacturing lobby's in WDC.
without those 6 Bil.,many American product will not have a chance competing in worlds markets.
they are simply buying the competition.
it is a money well spent to protect the American economy .
just one more bubble .
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
I don't see what foreign aid has to do with domestic problems.


The only way they are connected is in the way we look at them. We, as a nation, tend to try to handle problems in a short term manner. Put a patch on the problem quickly, then we can work on it later. We never do.
 
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