Romney's Mormonism an issue

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Romney's Mormonism in focus at political meeting
By Patricia Zengerle | Reuters

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney wooed evangelical Christian voters on Saturday with promises he would protect families, but found his Mormon religion at center stage at a conference of social conservatives.

The former Massachusetts governor, front-runner in the race for his party's nomination to oppose President Barack Obama in 2012, promised at the annual "Values Voter Summit" he would oppose marriage rights for homosexuals and seek to overturn the Roe v. Wade Supreme Court decision allowing legal abortions.

But Romney, who is viewed skeptically by conservatives for his past support for abortion rights and gay rights, kept to a relatively moderate line as he pushed back at those who denounce his faith.

"Poisonous language does not advance our cause," Romney said. "The blessings of faith carry the responsibility of civil and respectful debate. The task before us is to focus on the conservative beliefs and the values that unite us -- let no agenda narrow our vision or drive us apart."

Romney's Mormon religion emerged as an issue at the summit, where some participants questioned the validity of Romney's faith, which some evangelicals do not consider a form of Christianity.

The speaker who immediately followed Romney took veiled shots at the candidate's religion and said only an "authentic" Christian should be president.

On Friday, Texas pastor Robert Jeffress, a supporter of Texas Governor Rick Perry, said Republicans should not vote for Romney because he is a Mormon. He described Mormonism as a cult to reporters at the conference after introducing Perry, one of Romney's main rivals for the nomination.

Perry's campaign rejected Jeffress' view. "The governor does not believe Mormonism is a cult," Perry spokesman Mark Miner said.

All of the leading Republican presidential hopefuls made pitches for support at the influential gathering of social and religious conservatives who play a big role in the party's nominating race. The summit is sponsored by the Family Research Council, American Family Association and other evangelical Christian groups.

PAUL WINS STRAW POLL

The event included a non-binding straw poll, which was won by Representative Ron Paul, with 37 percent, or 732, of the 1,983 votes cast. Businessman Herman Cain, who has risen lately to the top tier in national polls, got 23 percent, and former Senator Rick Santorum, whose campaigning stresses socially conservative positions, came third at 16 percent.

Paul seemed to benefit from large numbers of students who came to the conference just for the day on Saturday, paying $75 each to attend and vote in the poll.

Perry came fourth, at 8 percent, the same percentage won by Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, although she received 10 fewer votes. Romney was sixth, with 4 percent, or 88 votes.

Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, said the straw poll showed "values voters" had not coalesced behind one candidate. "There's still work to do" for Perry and Romney, he said.

"The hearts and minds of the values voters are still there to be won," Perkins said.

Romney's remarks on abortion were more measured than other speakers'. While calling for the end of Roe v. Wade, he said the abortion issue should be decided by the states and acknowledged "strong convictions" on both sides.

"It speaks well of our country that almost all Americans recognize that abortion is a problem. The law may call it a right, but no one ever called it a good," Romney said in a speech focused on his economic and foreign policy proposals.

Romney was followed to the stage by Bryan Fischer, a director of the American Family Association, known for inflammatory remarks against homosexuality and "non-Christian religions," which he has said include Mormonism.

"The next president of the United States needs to be a man ... of sincere authentic genuine Christian faith," he said, in a jab at Romney.

Fischer said the next U.S. president must deny evolution, stop government assistance for the poor, veto any increase in the debt ceiling and "treat homosexual behavior not as a political cause at all, but as a threat to public health."

He called Islam the greatest long-term threat to U.S. liberty. "Every single mosque in America is a potential recruiting or training cell for Islamic terror," Fischer said.

(Editing by Peter Cooney)
 

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Topical news articles posted without comment are either SPAM or trolling, so cough it up. Whatcha think, dood? What's interesting? What's not? What do you agree with, or disagree with, and why? :D
 

Ragman

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Topical news articles posted without comment are either SPAM or trolling, so cough it up. Whatcha think, dood? What's interesting? What's not? What do you agree with, or disagree with, and why? :D

Ummmmm, At least he's not . . . :rolleyes:
 

greg334

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"Romney's Mormon religion emerged as an issue at the summit, where some participants questioned the validity of Romney's faith, which some evangelicals do not consider a form of Christianity."

The funny thing is some Christ based religious do not consider evangelical sect a form of Christianity either.
 

cheri1122

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This illustrates exactly what the freedom of religion was designed to prevent: a preference for one specific religion above others, and a litmus test for public office.
JFK was Catholic, Nixon was a Quaker - would they be electable today, based upon their religion of choice?

 

layoutshooter

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Religion should play NO role. LYING about ones beliefs or NOT living up to one's beliefs for political gain SHOULD cast doubt on the honesty and integrity of any candidate.
 

Dakota

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Why is it an issue? It shouldn't be. Even the so called Christian presidents I haven't agreed with 100%
Now if a satanist ran.....:eek:
 

cheri1122

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Wasn't it very recently [like last week] that the same evangelical Christians were complaining of being marginalized, disrespected, and not 'PC'?
Now candidates are being marginalized, disrespected, and not 'PC' because they aren't evangelical Christians?
Religion has no place in government!!!
 

layoutshooter

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"Religion has no place in government!!!"


Neither does anti-religious beliefs. (not at all suggesting that anyone in here falls into that camp)
 

greg334

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Neither does anti-religious beliefs. (not at all suggesting that anyone in here falls into that camp)

So we are to believe that a candidate who kissed the a**es of those on the religious bank who just so happen to have a number of them who think that the best way to deal with another religion is to destroy them or at least limit their place of worship is not being anti-religious?
 

layoutshooter

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So we are to believe that a candidate who kissed the a**es of those on the religious bank who just so happen to have a number of them who think that the best way to deal with another religion is to destroy them or at least limit their place of worship is not being anti-religious?

Religious "banK" ??

Seems to me all I said is anti-religion view have no place here. Destroy what religion? Seems to me that the ONLY religion in the US that the US Federal Government sent troops after was the Mormons.
 

AMonger

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Really? Would a Moonie or Heaven's Gate cultist be acceptable? How about a self-proclaimed Satan worshiper? Religion should mean nothing?

It's one thing to say that there should be no litmus test to get on the ballot, but you're not suggesting individual voters should disregard it, are you?

Romney is only about a half step removed from a moonie.
 

AMonger

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The irreligious believe that. Christians believe that their faith is applied to every aspect of life. As the saying goes, either Christ is lord of all, or He's not Lord at all.
 

RLENT

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I sorta like this fellow's approach - and I think it says something (irrespective of the particular religion mentioned):

"My faith is a deeply private issue to me, and I don’t speak on it in great detail during my speeches because I want to avoid any appearance of exploiting it for political gain. Let me be very clear here: I have accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Savior, and I endeavor every day to follow Him in all I do and in every position I advocate." - Dr. Ron Paul
 
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Tennesseahawk

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I would say religion is, in many cases, the fabric of a person's being. To take that out of politics means to take it out of the person. Would you rather a muslim keep his faith quiet, then get the presidency? No telling what he would do to undermine our society. Crap! It's happening now! :(

Having said that, I have less of a problem with him being a Mormon, than I do with him being a liberal. Find your own dammed party, hijacker! It's down the hall and to the LEFT!
 

greg334

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Religious "banK" ??

Seems to me all I said is anti-religion view have no place here. Destroy what religion? Seems to me that the ONLY religion in the US that the US Federal Government sent troops after was the Mormons.

This is the problem with this computer, I scroll down before I post and it screws up the post. I meant the religious far right and left.

That said, the anti-religious mentality is also within those religions that hate other religions.

Given what some of them want to use the Feds for, it is some on the far right and left religious groups that want to see only their religion exist.

I have less trust in any candidate who declares their religion as a way to garner votes.
 

RLENT

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I would say religion is, in many cases, the fabric of a person's being. To take that out of politics means to take it out of the person.
I don't think it's as much a case of having religion denied or absent, as much as it's a case of not prostituting out one's religion ....

Civility, and living in a civil society which cherishes freedom and individual rights - including the right for anyone and everyone to hold religious beliefs of their own choosing .... or none at all - necessarily requires respect for the religious beliefs of others.

Part of practicing that respect is accomplished by showing toleration for the beliefs of others.

Religion has been the source of much evil throughout history - this has largely occurred where it moves from being simply a matter of personal, private faith and practice, into a matter of a public cause.

Would you rather a muslim keep his faith quiet, then get the presidency? No telling what he would do to undermine our society. Crap! It's happening now!
Yeah ... I don't think so (re: Obama being a Muslim)

BTW, just in case you hadn't considered it, one could also say this (both now, and in the past) .... and be entirely correct:

"Would you rather a Christian keep his faith quiet, then get the presidency? No telling what he would do to undermine our society. Crap! It's happening now!"

Having said that, I have less of a problem with him being a Mormon, than I do with him being a liberal. Find your own dammed party, hijacker! It's down the hall and to the LEFT!
I have no problem with him being a Mormon - just as I would have no problem with someone running for President being a Muslim - provided that either follows the Rule of Law, and the Constitution.

BTW, I'd take a Muslim - one that follows the Constitution - as President any day, over anyone else who doesn't.

Freedom of conscience is, afterall, largely what this country is about.
 
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