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FACT CHECK: A one-sided story on trade, defense - Yahoo! News





FACT CHECK: A one-sided story on trade, defense


By BRADLEY KLAPPER and CALVIN WOODWARD | Associated Press






WASHINGTON (AP) — Mitt Romney solely blamed President Barack Obama on Monday for potential defense cuts that Republicans in Congress worked out with the White House and Democrats and left the misimpression that Obama has ignored free trade initiatives.

A closer look at some of the Republican presidential nominee's statements in his foreign policy speech:

ROMNEY: "I will roll back President Obama's deep and arbitrary cuts to our national defense that would devastate our military."

THE FACTS: "Arbitrary" defense cuts do not belong to Obama alone but also to congressional Republicans, including his vice presidential running mate, Rep. Paul Ryan. The first round of cuts in projected defense spending is the result of a bipartisan deal in August 2011 between Congress and the White House to wrestle down the deficit. Unless a new budget deal is reached in time, additional spending cuts will begin in January across government, and the cost to the Pentagon would be $500 billion over a decade. Lawmakers are working to avoid that. Separately, Obama wants to slow the growth of military spending, now that the war in Iraq is ended and the war in Afghanistan is drawing to a close. The Pentagon's budget, including war costs, is $670 billion this year, or about 18 percent of total federal spending. Even setting aside the costs of the wars, military spending has more than doubled since 2001.

At its heart, Romney's statement marks a disagreement with Obama over the proper level of military spending but also skips past a deficit-reduction deal that he recently criticized Republicans in Congress for negotiating.

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ROMNEY: "The president has not signed one new free trade agreement in the past four years. "

THE FACTS: Obama hasn't opened new trade negotiations, but he's completed some big ones, overcoming opposition from fellow Democrats to do so. After taking office, he revived a free-trade deal with Colombia that had been negotiated by his Republican predecessor but left to languish without congressional approval and sought similar progress with South Korean and Panamanian free-trade pacts. The president delayed submitting the three deals to Congress while he tried to placate Democrats who opposed some of the terms, but finally submitted them in 2011, and Congress approved them.

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ROMNEY: "I will recommit America to the goal of a democratic, prosperous Palestinian state living side by side in peace and security with the Jewish state of Israel. On this vital issue, the president has failed, and what should be a negotiation process has devolved into a series of heated disputes at the United Nations. In this old conflict, as in every challenge we face in the Middle East, only a new president will bring the chance to begin anew."

THE FACTS: With this statement, Romney has moved toward the balance enshrined in U.S. policy from one administration to another on the question of Israelis and Palestinians and away from his provocative remarks to a May fundraiser that recently came to light.

In those remarks, he said "the Palestinians have no interest whatsoever in establishing peace," ''the pathway to peace is almost unthinkable to accomplish," Palestinians are "committed to the destruction and elimination of Israel" and it would be "the worst idea in the world" to put pressure on the Israelis to give up something in hopes Palestinians would respond accordingly.
Now he is appearing to put faith in a negotiation process he all but dismissed before.

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ROMNEY: "As the dust settles, as the murdered (in the Libya consulate attack) are buried, Americans are asking how this happened, how the threats we face have grown so much worse, and what this calls on America to do."

THE FACTS: It's unclear whether terrorism has gotten worse. There has been no incident even remotely comparable in scope or symbolic meaning to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. After a score of counterterrorist successes, the Obama administration has been knocked back on its heels since the attacks' 11th anniversary, when assailants stormed the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, and killed a U.S. ambassador and three other Americans. There has also been an uptick in attacks on American troops by supposedly friendly Afghan forces. But many counterterrorist experts say al-Qaida has been significantly weakened and the threats of global terrorism significantly better countered over the last decade.

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ROMNEY: "When we look at the Middle East today — with Iran closer than ever to nuclear weapons capability, with the conflict in Syria threating to destabilize the region, with violent extremists on the march and with an American ambassador and three others dead likely at the hands of al-Qaida affiliates — it is clear that the risk of conflict in the region is higher now than when the president took office."

THE FACTS: Risk is always a matter of perception, so it doesn't fall easily into the realm of truth vs. fiction. But for the United States and the region, it's not clear that conflict has increased in the last four years. Obama entered office in 2009 with the United States still engaged in a conflict in Iraq. U.S. troops are no longer there. And he came as Israel and Hamas just finished a three-week war. That was two years after another war between Israel and an Iranian-backed force, in that case, Hezbollah in Lebanon.

There has been no significant Israeli military conflict since Obama has come into office. That said, Syria's conflict has become the region's deadliest since the Iraq war. The U.S. has stayed out of that conflict under Obama.
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Associated Press writer Donna Cassata contributed to this report.
 

layoutshooter

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Why bother to fact check EITHER of these duds. They are BOTH full of BULLONEY! Can't trust either one of them.
 

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Maybe a little left bias in that report. I think we are beyond "perception" as to how bad it has gotten over in the middle east. They have spent the last several months rioting, killing and burning US flags.
Don't remember any of that four years ago. Just about every one of those countries are in a mess.
 

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"THE FACTS: It's unclear whether terrorism has gotten worse. There has been no incident even remotely comparable in scope or symbolic meaning to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. After a score of counterterrorist successes, the Obama administration has been knocked back on its heels since the attacks' 11th anniversary, when assailants stormed the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, and killed a U.S. ambassador and three other Americans. There has also been an uptick in attacks on American troops by supposedly friendly Afghan forces. But many counterterrorist experts say al-Qaida has been significantly weakened and the threats of global terrorism significantly better countered over the last decade."

We're supposed to believe that a couple of lackeys from the AP are objective police of the "facts" instead of believing our lying eyes? Our embassies are under attack in the region from Egypt to Indonesia, one ambassador and three security officers dead; these are the types of attacks that were allowed to go unanswered by the Clinton administration which lead up to the 911 disaster. Obama is a weak academician, ignorant of the realities in foreign affairs and a joke in the eyes of other international leaders. For Obama's campaign directors to resort to the "Romney just lied" counter-argument after getting their ashes hauled in the first debate displays a position of weakness that can't be overcome. Their foundation built on false premises was completely dismantled and they don't have any substance to stand on in the aftermath.

Here's the stark reality: we have two choices for POTUS that have a chance of winning - Romney or Obama. We can (1)vote for Romney if you want to change the direction of the country (2)vote for Obama if you want more of the same (3)don't vote at all, or (4)engage in the meaningless exercise of voting for some insignificant 3d party or write-in candidate.
 

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Here's the stark reality: we have two choices for POTUS that have a chance of winning - Romney or Obama. We can (1)vote for Romney if you want to change the direction of the country (2)vote for Obama if you want more of the same (3)don't vote at all, or (4)engage in the meaningless exercise of voting for some insignificant 3d party or write-in candidate.

Here is the reality. Michigan is infested with UAW, USW and other union types. It is also infested with welfare rangers and medicaid mammas. Not to mention all of the illegals who will be voting. Obama IS going to win. NOTHING I can do to stop that. Stabenow is GOING to win, nothing I can do to stop that. I did vote for her opponent, not that it matters. Michigan is what it is.

I voted for who I did. It makes ZERO difference in the electorial vote count.
 

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"Here's the stark reality: we have two choices for POTUS that have a chance of winning - Romney or Obama. We can (1)vote for Romney if you want to change the direction of the country (2)vote for Obama if you want more of the same (3)don't vote at all, or (4)engage in the meaningless exercise of voting for some insignificant 3d party or write-in candidate."

Here is the reality. Michigan is infested with UAW, USW and other union types. It is also infested with welfare rangers and medicaid mammas. Not to mention all of the illegals who will be voting. Obama IS going to win. NOTHING I can do to stop that. Stabenow is GOING to win, nothing I can do to stop that. I did vote for her opponent, not that it matters. Michigan is what it is.

I voted for who I did. It makes ZERO difference in the electorial vote count.
 

Ragman

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Stir, stir, stir

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Why Does Mit want to Rattle Sabers at Iran? Why is it every time I turn around its we got to be the Police of the world? Why is it? Spend more money on the war machine. Think the boys sure could use some time off don't you think??

Seriously we got a Doberman already over there just lunging at the leash to take Iran out and I bet they most likely can do it if we release the hound. The Name of that Doberman is Israel. I think they can and will take out Iran all by them selves.
We already got Police over there (Israel) Mit and the rest of the Saber Rattlers need to focus on what they are going to do for the Middle Class Americans (The Working Class I should say) and get off their Saber Rattling. Countries like France when I was over there were not very Happy Campers with Americans. When George Bush decided to go after Saddam and took his eyes off of Bin Laden. Well France got cut off on there oil from Iraq and so did Germany and few of the other countries he was Black Marketing the oil too. He was under cutting OPEC in When I passed through Toulon France with a Fly Away team we got told by locals and told you F_ _ _ _ _ G American Pigs go Home we don't want you here. Note none of the team was in Uniform but in Civilian attire. Regular street clothes. So no I do not agree with the Saber Rattling. I believe that we should just pull out and let them countries have at it. They have not changed since Biblical times, and nothing we can do is going to change them. If policing needs to be done then let Israel do the job. We already spent way to much borrowed money over there in those countries and we don't need to spend another dime. Now as far as Mit and Paul go, they need to stop with the Salesmen ship and if they got a Plan show the whole Country By using the Math to prove what they say is true on how they are going to reduce the deficit. What and how they say does not add up. Thinking Vouchers will work I'm sorry Sell that to some one else. Do the Math Mit and Paul I know your Both smarter then what your portraying. Smoke and mirrors will not get my Vote. Last Election was (My Friends )and (Yes We Can). Catchy Phrases. But not this time. To Both Sides Do your Home work America can not afford keep Spending Billions of Dollars on (Crying Wolf Situations) IE Saber Rattling. The American Public needs A Contract with US A guarantee that deficit will of Trillions will get taken care of and brought down and once again give us a surplus. Buying 15 new War Ships and Submarines of which the Navy don't want will not bring down the deficit as one Sea Wolf Class Submarine cost over 200 Billion by its self to build. Do the math. I'm not saying that the Naval Service does not need New ships and Subs but they are not asking for them either. Now as far as Energy is concerned I do agree we need to Drill and bring to bear our oil. But we do not need to ship it overseas to Japan or China to get refined. Build the Refineries here in the US and Refine it here and create Jobs here in the States. I do agree we need to continue on with Wind Power But Here me on this My Bother Leon works for GE of which makes those wind turbines guess where all the circuit cards are made. (CHINA and MEXICO) Why can't we have the plant here in the USA making them? Good Question. Nuclear Power why not, Nearly All our US Aircraft Carriers and Submarines are Nuclear Powered. I agree Nuclear is safe and the environmentalist and Green Peace can blow their smoke some where else. Next Education O MY Goodness! What We are not Number one ranked in the Whole World we ought to be ashamed. Our Children ought to have the right for a College Education and for every American Citizen should as well for that matter if they want to go back to School I believe they should have the right and given the means to do so.
Just remember a Chain is only as strong as its weakest link or For Team USA only as strong as its Weakest Team Member. I Believe every American Citizen should have that chance to go to College. So instead of Rattling the Sabers over there and sending our tax dollars over there instead soak it into Education for All American Citizens. If you got the money to give it away and buy Allies, You can Re-funnel it to the Education and Health Care Programs Here in the States. Dare anyone tell me we got to give money to have allies. Wrong answer, anyone tell me that then your saying you got to buy your friends. Money can't buy real friends as real friends stick by u when the times are tough Don't forget it.

Rockefeller in a great campaign he had need us never forget: went over to DESERT of Saudi and drilled for Water only to hit oil. Making them Desert Dweller Camel Jocks rich. Hmm I guess over the years they have forgotten. To think they are our friends ya right.

Who ever gets the Presidents Chair and Vice President, I hope they will do their jobs and get the Congress and Senate to work together Demos and Republicans alike and set aside there petty differences of Partisanship and work together as a team for all the people of this Great Country.

Apologize None needed, Candidates along with the House and Senate do your jobs and work together, doing so you won't need no secret meetings of how you going to get the dud out of office like you had during the last Presidential Inauguration of 2008. We all know who they were and what was said!
Vote you out I'm sure the Working Class Americans will.

No false Promises or Smoke and Mirrors for Fancy talk of a Salesmen.

Put it on Paper Prove THE MATH and that goes for Both Parties.
 
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layoutshooter

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Obama is the problem. He is TRYING to start something over there. Quite often, well planned 'saber rattling' STOPS further problems. Just as have a VERY strong military does.

Obama is sending troop all over the place, no matter what happens to them. In many cases there are not enough sent to even defend themselves from a attack. Obama is a typical Democrat, looking for wars to get us into.
 
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