Rick Santorum: McCain Doesn't 'Get' Torture

witness23

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Okay, seriously, you've got to be kidding me right? This guy is a complete idiot and just threw away any chance of being a legitimate GOP contender for the Presidency. The United States of America is above these kind of tactics. All that you need to know about waterboarding is that, it was illegal and still is illegal. How could you be this stupid?

Link: Rick Santorum: John McCain wrong on torture - Juana Summers - POLITICO.com

Rick Santorum: John McCain wrong on torture
By JUANA SUMMERS | 5/17/11 2:24 PM EDT Updated: 5/18/11 10:56 AM EDT

Rick Santorum said Tuesday that Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who was tortured as a prisoner of war in Vietnam, "doesn't understand how enhanced interrogation works."

Speaking on Hugh Hewitt’s radio show, Santorum, the presidential hopeful and former Pennsylvania senator, says McCain is misguided in his stance against the enhanced interrogation techniques sanctioned during the Bush administration but discontinued by Obama's White House, which has labeled them torture.

“Everything I’ve read shows that we would not have gotten this information as to who this man was if it had not been gotten information from people who were subject to enhanced interrogation,” Santorum said, referring to the courier that led Americans to Osama bin Laden. “And so this idea that we didn’t ask that question while Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was being waterboarded, he doesn’t understand how enhanced interrogation works. I mean, you break somebody, and after they’re broken, they become cooperative.”


With the torture debate reignited by bin Laden's death, McCain has argued that enhanced interrogation did not lead the United States to the terror leader, and that his death should not be used to justify past use of techniques like waterboarding. Last week, McCain took to the Washington Post’s op-ed page, saying that techniques like waterboarding have no place in American interrogation policies.

In a statement to POLITICO after publication of this article, Santorum emphasized said his comments shouldn't be taken as an insult to


McCain's service.

“I disagree with Senator McCain’s view that the enhanced interrogation techniques used on a select few high-value terrorist detainees were unsuccessful nor do I believe they amounted to torture," he said. "For anyone to infer my disagreement with Senator McCain’s policy position lessens my respect for his service to our country and all he had to endure is outrageous and unfortunate.”
 

jaminjim

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So we are to listen to you on who the republican candidate is going to be. I think the Conservatives can choose Their own with out any help from people who elected Obama.
 

xiggi

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Owner/Operator
I love how many people have stated it's ok to shoot an unarmed Bin Laden in the head but at the same time say water boarding is wrong. Someone had to explain that logic to me. Saying we are above something like enhanced interrogation is nothing but a feel good argument imho.
 

jaminjim

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That's what you chose to glean from my post? :confused:
Well that is what you chose to make your point, so I responded to your statement.

Okay, seriously, you've got to be kidding me right?
I'm thinking this was a rhetorical correct?
This guy is a complete idiot and just threw away any chance of being a legitimate GOP contender for the Presidency.
This is what I took to be the crux of your post, did I get that wrong?
The United States of America is above these kind of tactics.
Well apparently not.
All that you need to know about waterboarding is that, it was illegal and still is illegal.
Really, I just need to know that it is illegal?( I don't need a liberal lawyer who's worst day to date was not getting his latte the right temperature, tell me how horrible that is/was)
How could you be this stupid?
I'm not.
 

jaminjim

Veteran Expediter
Question for you Witness, are you more upset with the cold blooded murder of an unarmed man (OBL), than you are about the water poured over the face of those torture victims?
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Thanks for that, for me it isn't the issue of torture but McCain who should be told to shut up and sit down. He is part of the problem not part of any solution we need.

The issue of torture is not for us to really complain about, we have no choice in using some forms of interrogation but in many cases some of what goes on is practiced on some special forces and CIA people to harden them.

So we are to listen to you on who the republican candidate is going to be. I think the Conservatives can choose Their own with out any help from people who elected Obama.

See I think this is the downfall of the republican party, the obsessive talk about a conservative candidate when the party isn't conservative and most of the possible candidates are no where near conservative. It is amazing that the party has yet gotten a clue after many many groups (democrat, republican, libertarian and even socialist) have been saying that the republican party has to get it together and PICK one guy to run and take a chance. For this, they MAY not just lose an election but congress.
 

witness23

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Question for you Witness, are you more upset with the cold blooded murder of an unarmed man (OBL), than you are about the water poured over the face of those torture victims?

Well first of all, lets not diminish what waterboarding actually is, it certainly is not, just pouring water over ones face.

Was I upset about the murder of Osama bin Laden? No, not at all. I wasn't running in the streets celebrating his demise either. As a Christian, I have mixed feelings, he was still a creation of God. Am I grieved of a human life taken? Yes. But it is not for me to decide and have to accept what happened was God's will. I would hope that with bin Laden gone, the world may be an easier place to unite in peacemaking.
 

witness23

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Question for you Witness, are you more upset with the cold blooded murder of an unarmed man (OBL), than you are about the water poured over the face of those torture victims?

How did you feel about the news of bin Laden's death?
 

jaminjim

Veteran Expediter
While I didn't celebrate, I thought it was good news. I actually am glade that he was said to be unarmed, if that was the case I can only hope they let him take it all in before he was killed. At least it would have been the same as 9/11 when he murdered the unarmed citizens in the towers.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
"As a Christian, I have mixed feelings, he was still a creation of God."

So was Satan and his followers.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
And your point is?????

OBL and Satan were both creations of God. IF you COULD kill Satan, would you? Would you have "mixed feelings" ? Would the killing of Satan be a GOOD thing?

There are few ways to kill a cancer. You can cut it out, poison it or bombard it with radiation. You have to KILL IT.

OBL was a cancer. I have NO mixed feelings.
 
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