Question for Turtle

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I have been calling around looking for a Trojan Battery, a SCS225. None of my local stores carry Trojan batteries anymore. One place is talking about a U.S. battery instead of the Trojan, a US31DCXC. I no nothing about this battery or the company for that matter. How does it compare to the Trojan?
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
Both batteries are marketed as 12-volt "marine" batteries, both are Group 31 footprints, both are 130Ah at the 20 hour rate, and have 225 minutes of reserve capacity at a 25 Ah draw, and they both weigh 66 pounds, so they are very similar with the same lead content.

Here's a list of 17 Trojan dealers within 100 miles of Romulus.

US Battery makes good batteries. I don't know that I'd say they are better than Trojans, though. But they are so similar in performance and construction, I'd get whichever one is cheaper.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Both batteries are marketed as 12-volt "marine" batteries, both are Group 31 footprints, both are 130Ah at the 20 hour rate, and have 225 minutes of reserve capacity at a 25 Ah draw, and they both weigh 66 pounds, so they are very similar with the same lead content.

Here's a list of 17 Trojan dealers within 100 miles of Romulus.

US Battery makes good batteries. I don't know that I'd say they are better than Trojans, though. But they are so similar in performance and construction, I'd get whichever one is cheaper.


Thanks, I have a list of dealers but it seems to be very much out of date. Most that I have called stopped selling the Trojan as on the first of the year. Even the distributor in Romulus quit carrying them. I live near a place in Toledo that may have it or might be able to get the Trojan.

Neither are cheap $175-185 range.

I had heard of U.S. Battery but never sold them and knew little about their quality.

I do NOT want Interstate. We had their deep cycles returned at a rate of almost 5-1 over the Trojan. Gander Mountain only carries Interstate now.
 

Turtle

Administrator
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Retired Expediter
Interstate makes a good, cheap cranking battery. After that, it's pretty iffy.

Not sure why the dealers aren't carrying Trojans anymore, might be something to take a closer look at. But if you have easy access to US Battery batteries ( :D ) then I'd go that route. You might also look online for batteries, a sometimes you can get good deals, except the shipping usually kills it. However, if you can order online and then go pick it up yourself, you can save a bundle.

Good batteries aren't cheap, and you generally do get what you pay for. US Battery is a solid company with a solid battery. Been around since the 1920's, and everything they have is American made. I've delivered to all three of their plants, two in Georgia and one in California. Of course, Trojan is an American made company, too, except for the ones they make and sell overseas, not much is imported. Trojan invented the deep cycle battery, so they've been making them longer than anyone else.

For flooded wet deep cycle batteries, Trojan is usually the first choice, but there are others who are just as good, like US Battery. For sealed lead acid AGM batteries, Concord is the one who invented that one, and is usually the first choice, but there are others who are just as good, like Discover Energy, Odyssey. Deka is another brand that makes good batteries in both categories, as is Crown, a Fremont, Ohio company that recently recalled all of its Mexican production back to Ohio. And Sears has a pretty good AGM battery, although their non-AGM batteries are made in the same Johnson Controls factory that makes Interstate batteries, among many others, like the house brands of many auto parts dealers, in many instances the only difference between them is the case and the label. Not a big fan of Optima batteries.

Beyond that, there are Rolls, Surrette and HuP Solar One batteries, but now you're well out of the truck and car battery universe and into off-the-grid applications with 2 and 4 volt batteries with Ah ratings in the thousands, and priced to match. Like, a 2-volt battery weighing in at 258 pounds, and 6 of them put together to make a 12 volt battery weighs 1550 pounds, gives 1990 amp hours, and can be had for the bargain price of $4700. But, for a battery that is guaranteed for 5500 cycles at 80% DoD and 15 years, it really is a bargain.

Incidentally, the batteries in military ordinance is most often either a US Battery or a Concord Lifeline battery. Concord is almost sure to be the one inside military aircraft.
 
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Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
OK, then we're back to the two brands and models you mentioned, whichever is cheapest. :)
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Yeah, I figured. Not that either are cheap but you sorta get what you pay for.

I put a deep cycle through hell on the River. The current is fast, often pushing 7mph. I am always working against that current. The secret to vertical jigging is keeping the line vertical. Use a bow mount to slow my drift and hold me on "My Rock". That one rock used to produce 60 fish a year for me. It would produce all summer but I always quit after 60. That is all the wife and I could use in a summer.
 

Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I think the BP gas station off I-94 and Middlebelt Road sells Trojans from a vending machine.
 
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