Prove It Sprinter Owners!

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Well I just had a really interesting conversation with a lurker of this site and it ended with "prove it".

The subject is how much can you carry in your sprinter?

He thinks that the sprinter can haul more than it does.

I won't post what the numbers we discussed to be fair about this, so I would ask if someone wants to post (OVM, Piper, Turtle and others) what they can legally haul and what their curb weight is to see who is right.

AND does anyone out in EO land have a sprinter 3500 with a box on it? I thought someone did.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Well I just had a really interesting conversation with a lurker of this site and it ended with "prove it".

The subject is how much can you carry in your sprinter?

He thinks that the sprinter can haul more than it does.

I won't post what the numbers we discussed to be fair about this, so I would ask if someone wants to post (OVM, Piper, Turtle and others) what they can legally haul and what their curb weight is to see who is right.

AND does anyone out in EO land have a sprinter 3500 with a box on it? I thought someone did.

What I will carry and CAN carry are 2 different situations...
My curb weight can vary because of team/solo situation...
I will take a couple hundred pounds over depending on the load....no more then 2500 lbs...I generally weigh about 61/6200 empty so that leaves approx. 23/2400 legal.

I found a weigh ticket I got when I left the dealer and it was completely empty...it was like 5784 lbs
 
Last edited:

piper1

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
2500 lbs in the back and I am fully maxed out (the 8550 gvw). I have to be careful about how much stuff I keep in the truck, most of my accessory setups were done with weight being the first consideration. Anything that came with the van that I didn't need (pass seat, spare tire etc) were removed to offset the weight of the bunk.

I have a 2008 170 inch extended body 2500 with the high roof, I would not buy this again for expedite. The extended body is 200 lbs I wish I had for other things. If you regularly haul 3 skids or 12 foot long freight (I did when I bought the van) the ext is worth it but not in the standard freight world. Ingenuity on sleeping set ups is a better option.

The numbers Dodge published for weights were very optimistic.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
2500 lbs in the back and I am fully maxed out (the 8550 gvw). I have to be careful about how much stuff I keep in the truck, most of my accessory setups were done with weight being the first consideration. Anything that came with the van that I didn't need (pass seat, spare tire etc) were removed to offset the weight of the bunk.

I have a 2008 170 inch extended body 2500 with the high roof, I would not buy this again for expedite. The extended body is 200 lbs I wish I had for other things. If you regularly haul 3 skids or 12 foot long freight (I did when I bought the van) the ext is worth it but not in the standard freight world. Ingenuity on sleeping set ups is a better option.

The numbers Dodge published for weights were very optimistic.

you worry about 10/20 pounds? :eek:
 

piper1

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
If I worried more about my "pounds" perhaps I could shop for clothes off the same rack you do........on second thought.:p
 

comet_4298

Seasoned Expediter
Well,I hate to say it,but lot of them don't even know were or what that sticker is in the door jam or just don't give a darn.I Have 2007 Sprinter/2500 with the sleeper. I'll scale out about 7000 with me(at 200lbs,full tank of fuel and all my food,drinks and clothes) ,if I ever get this thing payed for, theirs no more in my future.Just about forgot that leaves around 1500lbs. for freight. Already looking around for my next vehicle......call the people at cargomaxx 3 weeks and no return call from them,so shopping around out there for something with about 9900GVW and a 5000 curb weight...(Ha,Ha,Ha).

You got to work harder, than smarter with this thing...... THE TRUTH HURT'S DON'T IT!
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Well,I hate to say it,but lot of them don't even know were or what that sticker is in the door jam or just don't give a darn.I Have 2007 Sprinter/2500 with the sleeper. I'll scale out about 7000 with me(at 200lbs,full tank of fuel and all my food,drinks and clothes) ,if I ever get this thing payed for, theirs no more in my future.Just about forgot that leaves around 1500lbs. for freight. Already looking around for my next vehicle......call the people at cargomaxx 3 weeks and no return call from them,so shopping around out there for something with about 9900GVW and a 5000 curb weight...(Ha,Ha,Ha).

You got to work harder, than smarter with this thing...... THE TRUTH HURT'S DON'T IT!

No..not really...This being my second van and having had 5 years in this biz.....I knew what my weight limitations would be BEFORE I bought it....
I know one thing...I will never go back to the tuna can...:D
 

ebsprintin

Veteran Expediter
I'll go by the weight ticket I used when I signed on at the beginning of the summer. Empty (fully decked out to run)--5940. GVWR--8550. That equals 2610 for freight. To give myself a cushion I list the vehicle as capable of carrying 2400. When I'm done with my renovations I'll reweigh, and I'm expecting to be 63-6400 empty. The vehicle is a 2007, 170 wheel base, extended body, and high roof.

eb
 
Last edited:

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
I'll go by the weight ticket I used when I signed on at the beginning of the summer. Empty (fully decked out to run)--5940. GVWR--8500. That equals 2610 for freight. To give myself a cushion I list the vehicle as capable of carrying 2400. When I'm done with my renovations I'll reweigh, and I'm expecting to be 63-6400 empty. The vehicle is a 2007, 170 wheel base, extended body, and high roof.

eb

Only a guess, But I think NOT over loading the van has contributed my luck with my Sprinter...453,000 miles now..
 

whitewolf

Seasoned Expediter
What about 2 trannys in 3 yrs 5000$ each to rebuilt..front bearings..one broken 1800$ and many other troubles you run with 35000$ Sprinter :)
 

skyraider

Veteran Expediter
US Navy
I dont own a sprinter, what i do have is an ancient b3500 dodge one ton, cargo van. I can haul 2500 lbs with ease and I dont burn up trannies, just change the oil in the tranny every 6months, sprinters are to costly to operate, did I mention the payments on them,,wow 750 month,,ps,,my old bucket of bolts is paid for aaaamen
 

aileron

Expert Expediter
I dont own a sprinter, what i do have is an ancient b3500 dodge one ton, cargo van. I can haul 2500 lbs with ease and I dont burn up trannies, just change the oil in the tranny every 6months, sprinters are to costly to operate, did I mention the payments on them,,wow 750 month,,ps,,my old bucket of bolts is paid for aaaamen

I don't know sky, in my case my sprinter saved me money in the long run because of the fuel mileage I get. I am not going through the calculations again, but you can find them here somewhere if you search, but if I remember correctly, in 300k miles, my sprinter saved me 15k in fuel alone, and no major breakdown. Sprinters rock.
 

aileron

Expert Expediter
Well I just had a really interesting conversation with a lurker of this site and it ended with "prove it".

The subject is how much can you carry in your sprinter?

He thinks that the sprinter can haul more than it does.

I won't post what the numbers we discussed to be fair about this, so I would ask if someone wants to post (OVM, Piper, Turtle and others) what they can legally haul and what their curb weight is to see who is right.

AND does anyone out in EO land have a sprinter 3500 with a box on it? I thought someone did.

Greg, last time I weigh my sprinter the curb weight was 5350 lbs (I have the 140" wheel base, low roof, and no sleeper of any kind in there, just me, a few clothes and a full tank of fuel). This gives me 3200 lbs for freight with a GVWR of 8550 lbs. However, I have never put more than 2500 lbs in there. In my opinion, if it weighs more than that, it is a straight truck load. I will not haul it.
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
I weigh mine empty fairly often. You'd be surprised at how much weight you can accumulate by adding a tool here, a thingamabob there. My most recent empty weight ticket is 6260, which leaves 2290 for freight.

I have hauled as much as 3000 pounds, but it's a rarity to even be offered that much, and the routing would have to be mostly flat, and I drive accordingly (slower speeds overall, and much slower accelerations). I have once carried 3000 pounds from Indiana to Vancouver, which was too much weight for the Rockies, so I had to be very careful out there, but it turned out that the extra weight made an otherwise impossible trip over some brutal snow-covered mountain passes a relative piece of cake. But generally, anything over 2000 pounds gets looked at very closely for routing, and if there's too many hills or mountains, I'll pass on the load. Fortunately, the vast majority of my loads are less-than-1000 pounds. I would guestimate that 70 percent of my loads are under 1000, 20 percent between 1000 and 1500, and 10 percent more than 1500 pounds.

Heavier loads put more wear and tear on a lot of things, like brakes, tires, bearings, suspension, all pumps, and the one that's easy to see, fuel economy. Customers rent the whole van, and some will try to fill it full, overweight if they can get away with it, but for my money, a 500 pound load will pay me more than a 2000 pound load that pays the same rate, simply by virtue of less wear and tear and better fuel economy. No, you really don't have to work harder with this thing, you can actually work smarter, instead. A reduced rate load at 100 pounds will actually pay more in realized cost savings than a regular load at 2500 pounds, in many cases.

My passenger seat has been replaced with a plywood desk with shelves where I have the CB and QC mounted, the laptop, some external hard drives and assorted junk. I have a heavy bunk, very solid, made of 1/2" wood, and there's the shelving along the rear walls made of heavy wood. There's the Microfridge (fridge/freezer/microwave) that weighs 100 pounds, and the scanner/printer. Oh, and the 260 pound house battery bank and probably 100 pounds of battery cable, lugs, busbars and class-T fuses. I carry a few tools, spare parts and oil and coolant. There is easily an extra 1000 pounds in my van between all that stuff, plus the insulation.

Curb weight of an 06 and earlier Sprinter is 4600 (3950 payload capacity). The 07's and later it's 4784 (3776 payload capacity). Sprinter Curb Weights include a full tank of fuel and a 150 pound driver. Anything else that gets added must be subtracted from the payload capacity. Some choose to use the factory decking and not add another plywood deck. Some choose to use the factory D-Rings instead of E-Track. But regardless of what you do, by the time it's outfitted for expediting, including personal items, a bunk and insulation, one can never haul as much in there as they think they can.
 

Jack_Berry

Moderator Emeritus
What about 2 trannys in 3 yrs 5000$ each to rebuilt..front bearings..one broken 1800$ and many other troubles you run with 35000$ Sprinter :)


is that you? if not stick to personal facts to avoid the he said i know it to be truth argument.

what about the engine and tranny and fuel pump i replaced in my american truck? the continuing problems with the coil overs and injectors? mine was second hand so maybe it was abused by the po i don't know.
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
Well, going through two trannies in three years is not unheard of. What's unheard of is someone going through two of them while using the correct transmission fluid, changing it according to the schedule, and not abusing the transmission.

In any case, why would someone pay five grand for a two grand transmission, and then do it again? (Never mind, it's the same person who can manage to break a NAG1 transmission in 18 months).

In any case, those who perform the maintenance according to the schedule, and have someone competent doing the maintenance, and use only the approved fluids from The List, rarely have major problems with their Sprinters. Those who know better than the Mercedes engineers and the Sprinter technicians generally have a few more problems, by and large.
 

RLENT

Veteran Expediter
The subject is how much can you carry in your sprinter?
I'm listed at 2500 lbs with my carrier, although the empty weight ticket I provided them would allow me 2800 lbs.

He thinks that the sprinter can haul more than it does.
In younger, much more foolish times I hauled 4740 lbs in mine once or twice. Not something I'd recommend tho' .... :rolleyes:

Still on the original transmission, 227K miles (knock on wood)
 
Last edited:

FIS53

Veteran Expediter
In my Sprinter with myself fuel and my small amount of gear I can carry 3500lbs. Now this is with the van empty of everything else. With the bed and other creature comforts and such I can still manage to get it to 3000lbs load capacity (light materials utilized). The van has only the step bumper and cruise as options so basically it's a stripper. I've been weighed at pickup and drop off places and got scale tickets to show even with 3150lb load I wasn't over the 8550 gvw (close though). That was a load we were told was only 2200lbs. Just depends on what I have in the buggy with me. I've removed the bed as I had to to take a load to Nova Scotia (yeah liked that a lot, no place to bunk down) so this reduces net weight.
Rob
 
Top