Pretrip?

[OntarioVanMan]

As I sit here in a Walmart..I am actually honored to watch a flatbedder doing a pretrip inspection...something you don't see every day..I could count on 1 hand the number of expediters that do one "legally"....I thought they were to be done pryer to starting your log before you go pick up a load after your 10?

Most of the time they come in do their 10...wake up get coffee and off they go....expediters are equally guilty of this I notice...

 

[JimF51]

I do one every day (straight truck), mostly as a pre trip, but u can do one as a post trip, if needed. Ans should be logged as such. I'm biased, being as prior to getting into expediting, I drove nothing but flatbed in the past. Since it's so critical to check a flatbed load, it's easy to get into habit of doing the pretrip and load check at same time.

 

[fortwayne]

I'm still amazed the drivers in St that don't secure their loads. That's just being lazy.

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[moose]

Just sitting on the porch,
counting them Goose that can't fly.
no news here.
move on.

 

[butterfly610]

The problem is that so many aren't real drivers. At least professional. They just got a Cdl to drive a straight truck. That's as far as it goes for them knowing about safety issues....pretrips, freight securement, and probably even scaling some loads to make sure its even loaded legal.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Hard to understand...it is your bread and butter...puts the food on your table...wouldn't it be a good thing top spot something wrong BEFORE it breaks and get it repaired and not lose the income?....I mean Gee whiz....and then they whine because the truck is always breaking down...

 

[Moot]

I'm still amazed the drivers in St that don't secure their loads. That's just being lazy.

I agree. I see it all the time with van drivers when I do a swap.

 

[Dakota]

I'm still amazed the drivers in St that don't secure their loads. That's just being lazy.

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LTL semi drivers rarely secure their loads either

 

[Brisco]

As I sit here in a Walmart..I am actually honored to watch a flatbedder doing a pretrip inspection...something you don't see every day..I could count on 1 hand the number of expediters that do one "legally"....I thought they were to be done pryer to starting your log before you go pick up a load after your 10?

Most of the time they come in do their 10...wake up get coffee and off they go....expediters are equally guilty of this I notice...

Hard to understand...it is your bread and butter...puts the food on your table...wouldn't it be a good thing top spot something wrong BEFORE it breaks and get it repaired and not lose the income?....I mean Gee whiz....and then they whine because the truck is always breaking down...

Was this a Semi-Truck Flatbedder or an LTL/HotShot type of Flatbedder?? (1 ton dually with a 40ft trailer)

Just wondering, cause with the new CAS2010 regulations in place, or slowly being put in place, you will be seeing-should be seeing-better be seeing is more and more truck drivers out there inspecting their vehicles just about everywhere you're at.

I know there's not a lot of talk here when it comes to Level 1, 2, and 3 inspections at scalehouses and with random pull-overs, but the "real truck drivers" have a whole lot to lose if they are not doing their due diligence when it comes to keeping their vehicles properly maintained, for safetys sake, and inspecting-inspecting-inspecting their trucks, as well as loads. Inspections are a key element in maintaining that equipment.

So, give that driver a big "Thumbs Up" for doing what he is supposed to be doing.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Was this a Semi-Truck Flatbedder or an LTL/HotShot type of Flatbedder?? (1 ton dually with a 40ft trailer)

Just wondering, cause with the new CAS2010 regulations in place, or slowly being put in place, you will be seeing-should be seeing-better be seeing is more and more truck drivers out there inspecting their vehicles just about everywhere you're at.

I know there's not a lot of talk here when it comes to Level 1, 2, and 3 inspections at scalehouses and with random pull-overs, but the "real truck drivers" have a whole lot to lose if they are not doing their due diligence when it comes to keeping their vehicles properly maintained, for safetys sake, and inspecting-inspecting-inspecting their trucks, as well as loads. Inspections are a key element in maintaining that equipment.

So, give that driver a big "Thumbs Up" for doing what he is supposed to be doing.

A full sized semi....he lifted the hood, checked his tires and under the trailer and tightened all his chains and checked his lights...don't see that hardly at all after taking their 10 in a Walmart...they just go....

 

[Deville]

I do a pre-trip every day, I do a quick visual while the truck is warming up, As I pull out of the yard I turn the lights, hazards, winshield wipers on & toot both horns. Once I pull out of the yard I have to close & lock the gate, than I do a walk around check the tires mirrors cargo doors etc. I can't start my day if I don't do it. It just doesn't feel right. I't almost OCD like.

Since I have to open the gate when I get back & I like to let the tubo wind down at idle for a few mins I do the same walk around I described above at the end of the day.

It's definaltly worth it I have spotted some issues before I leave that would have caused my prolbems once I hit the road.

 

[ConfusedMuse]

Doing a pre/post helps you spot trouble before you pay the huge $$$'s on the road to have someone that your not familiar with do the work. 15 minutes, heck 30 saves grief on the road

 

[leezaback]

pre and post trips should be done.What makes a real driver ?
For us who hold a class A and went to school should of learned how to do inspections,if I remember right there was a 102 point check list to do on a semi. as far as a class B driver goes, they were never required to learn this, blame the system. I applaud those who do their inspections to the best of thier abilities, for the knowledge they have . Even some class A proffesional drivers are far from proffessional ! For those who never do one-shame on you.

 

[JohnMueller]

Guys and Gals;

It is so crucial now that you do really good pre-trip inspections because of CSA. EVERY violation (vehicle or driver) discovered during roadside inspections will show up not only on your Carrier's SMS (CSA Basics) scores, but also YOUR PSP scores. Also remember to keep that logbook current at all times.

I would invite you all to attend the Safety and Insurance Workshop at the 2011 Expedite Expo in Wilmington, Ohio. We'll be discussing CSA, SMS and PSP, along with answering your questions. Handouts for you to take will be provided to all attendees.

Thanks,
HotFr8Recruiter

 

[Brisco]

Guys and Gals;

It is so crucial now that you do really good pre-trip inspections because of CSA. EVERY violation (vehicle or driver) discovered during roadside inspections will show up not only on your Carrier's SMS (CSA Basics) scores, but also YOUR PSP scores. Also remember to keep that logbook current at all times.

I would invite you all to attend the Safety and Insurance Workshop at the 2011 Expedite Expo in Wilmington, Ohio. We'll be discussing CSA, SMS and PSP, along with answering your questions. Handouts for you to take will be provided to all attendees.

Thanks,
HotFr8Recruiter

And I second the recommendation above when it comes to attending some sort of class on the learning of and understanding how CSA2010 is going to effect each and every CDL driver out there.

Sooner or later, those little "burned out left brake lights" that were once a "Hey, get it fixed" warning are going to be detrimental as to whether you're going to be able to stay behind the wheel of a truck or not. Hint-Hint......

 

[OntarioVanMan]

pre and post trips should be done.What makes a real driver ?
For us who hold a class A and went to school should of learned how to do inspections,if I remember right there was a 102 point check list to do on a semi. as far as a class B driver goes, they were never required to learn this, blame the system. I applaud those who do their inspections to the best of thier abilities, for the knowledge they have . Even some class A proffesional drivers are far from proffessional ! For those who never do one-shame on you.

A CDL B doesn't learn a pretrip ? Holy Cow

 

[greg334]

It doesn't matter who discusses what, until the system is changed to allow a driver a way to fight a warning, both written and unwritten, the system is seriously flawed.

Pre-trips and post-trips are part of the CDL test, class c through a by the way.

 

[dabluzman1]

A CDL B doesn't learn a pretrip ? Holy Cow

When I was an instructor in Ohio I did come across some individuals moving in from other states that wanted to transfer a CDL that didnt require
the skills aspect, but all required a driving test and pre-trip.
But, I havent dealt with all the states.
Except for towing weight restrictions a Class B test is the same as a Class A test, the Pre-trip, Skills Test and Driving Test are conducted in the type of vehicle that will qualify for the Class CDL you want.

Here is for Ohio:
Steps To Obtain a Commercial Drivers License
Get a free CDL Manual from any BMV or Ohio Exam Station. For a Class "A" CDL you will need to read sections: 1, 2, 3, 5 & 6. This consists of 50 questions for General Knowledge, 25 questions for Air Brakes and 20 questions for Combination.

You may need to call to make an appointment to take the State Written test at any Ohio License Exam Station. (Many phone numbers are listed on this site)You must tell them what Class of CDL (A, B, C) you are applying for and any endorsements. Air Brakes are not an endorsement! If you are taking the test with an Air Brake truck then you have to take the Air Brake written test!

Ohio Drivers License Exam Station will administer an eye test. You must pass the General Knowledge first to continue testing with The other endorsements. If you should fail any test you are allowed to re-take that test, in most cases 24 hours later.

Once you have passed your tests with 80% or better (4 tries per test) it will be entered into their computer which will allow you to then purchase your temporary license at the BMV. Your temporary license is valid for a 6 month period. The driver can drive the vehicle he qualified for but only if a current and valid Commercial Licensed Driver is in the same vehicle with the proper classifications.

CDL-Training Consultants will make all arrangements for you to take the Skills Test at a State operated or 3rd Party testing facility. The test consists of three parts: Pre-Trip Inspection ($20.00), Off-Road Backing Skills ($20.00) and the Road Test ($45.00). The entire test takes approximately 2 hours.

After you have passed the Skills Test you can then go to any BMV within 10 days to transfer your current Operators License to a Commercial Drivers License. Your expiration date on your CDL will concur with your present operators license unless you are within 60 days of expiration.

Total Cost:
Temp. Packet 27.00
Written Test 0.00
Skills Test 85.00
CDL LIcense 43.00
$155.00

NOTE: Once you have attained a Commercial Drivers License you are required to have a D.O.T Physical and a Drug Test. (You do not need to meet these requirements before taking the CDL test)

YOU MAY NEED TO PRESENT YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY CARD
TO TAKE YOUR WRITTEN TESTS!!