Poll: Almost half of Britons feel WikiLeaks sex charges are 'excuse'

RLENT

Veteran Expediter
(CNN) -- Almost half of Britons believe that the sex charges against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange are "an excuse" to keep him in custody so that the U.S. government can prosecute him for releasing secret diplomatic cables, a new CNN poll shows.

The CNN poll of British opinion, released Monday on the eve of Assange's bail hearing in London, finds that 44% of respondents in Great Britain believe that Sweden's sex charges are such a pretext, while only 13% flatly disagree. The remaining 43% say they don't know.

Assange, 39, the Australian founder of WikiLeaks, is fighting extradition to Sweden, where he is wanted for questioning about allegations of sexual assault.

British people responding to the poll said by a spread of 41% to 30% that Assange shouldn't be prosecuted for releasing the secret diplomatic cables, with the remaining 29% not having made up their mind.

More people agree than disagree that WikiLeaks was right to release the cables, by 42% to 33%. The remainder, 25%, don't have a position.

Despite the prevailing opinion that the sex charges are a ploy, almost half of Britons, or 44%, say their government should send Assange to Sweden anyway for questioning. Twenty-nine percent disagree, and the rest say they don't know.

Age was a significant division in the results of the poll, conducted this month by ComRes for CNN. ComRes interviewed 2,010 British adults online between December 10 and December 13. Data were weighted to be demographically representative of all adults in Great Britain.

Older people were significantly more likely to feel that Assange should be sent to Sweden for questioning and that he should be prosecuted for leaking the secret diplomatic cables.

For example, 42% of persons 65 and older say Assange should be prosecuted for releasing the secret diplomatic cables, a view held by only 21% of those between 25 and 34.

In the United States, most Americans who followed the news about WikiLeaks say its release of U.S. State Department cables harms the public interest, according to a Pew Research Center poll. [Rlent Editorial Comment: The above is downright scary, since it is indicative of the public's unwillingness to look at and view truth, and it's propensity to be manipulated by government propaganda ... someone please get out the three monkeys ... :rolleyes:]

Only 31% of Americans who paid attention to the news say the WikiLeaks' publication of diplomatic documents serves the public interest, while 60% says it's harmful, according to the Pew center. [Rlent Editorial Comment: Again, as above ...... :rolleyes:]

Americans make a distinction between the WikiLeaks website and the media's handling of the released documents, with only 38% saying the press has gone too far in reporting the secret cables. A nearly equal number, 39%, say news organizations have struck the right balance, and 14% of informed Americans say outlets have withheld too much from the public. [Rlent Editorial Comment: Someone with a cynical mind might say that the above is a consequence of the government's effort to demonize Assange, as opposed to not making much of an effort to demonize the rest of the media, who essentially reported the same thing]

Assange, who voluntarily turned himself in to London authorities last week after a Swedish arrest warrant was issued, has denied any wrongdoing, and supporters have called the charges an attempt to strike back at him and his WikiLeaks group, which so far has released more than 1,300 of what it says will be more than 250,000 U.S. diplomatic documents dating back 1966.

The London judge in the City of Westminster Magistrate's Court has repeatedly said the case is "not about WikiLeaks" but rather about serious sexual offenses that allegedly occurred on three occasions with two women.

Several celebrities have come forward and offered to pay Assange's surety, or bail.

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Poll: Almost half of Britons feel WikiLeaks sex charges are 'excuse'
 

EnglishLady

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Hmmm :rolleyes: half of Britons huh, and just over 2,000 were polled :rolleyes:

Gee there were more ppl than that when I left ;)

Personally I don't trust polls especially such a small percentage that were polled, people are finnicky and change their minds at the last minute.

There's not usually smoke without fire, but if he is innocent then he won't mind going to Sweden and stating his case.

As for Wiki leaks and the US wanting him, that is not for the British Court to decide, this case is purely about the extradition.
And yes I do believe that :D
 

RLENT

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Hmmm .... half of Britons huh, and just over 2,000 were polled ....
I don't write the headlines ..... (they claim a sampling error of plus or minus 2% ...... whatever that means :rolleyes:)

Gee there were more ppl than that when I left
I don't believe that there was any claim that they had polled everyone in the country.

There's not usually smoke without fire,
That's true .... although "the smoke" you are seeing may be a US covert op ..... and I believe at least one of the "accusers" was reported to have worked for the Swedish government.

but if he is innocent then he won't mind going to Sweden and stating his case.
Huh ?

Please, please tell me you are kidding ?

To be falsely accused (if that is the case) of a crime which you did not commit, to be arrested, deprived of one's freedom and held without bail (for who knows how long), to be forced to spend who knows how much money to defend oneself, to be forcibly removed from where one is to another locale ... not mind ?

Really ?

As someone who was unjustly convicted for a minor traffic matter (which is a criminal offence) - based on perjured testimony of the other party and an officer of the law - I can tell ya I would sure as hell mind ....

As for Wiki leaks and the US wanting him, that is not for the British Court to decide, this case is purely about the extradition.
The possibility of extradition from Sweden to the US might play into it ..... dunno ....
 
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EnglishLady

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I don't write the headlines ..... (they claim a sampling error of plus or minus 2% ...... whatever that means :rolleyes:)


I don't believe that there was any claim that they had polled everyone in the country.

They claim almost half Britons, according to your post - that would lead some ppl to believe that they had to have asked everyone in Briton - not blaiming you btw, Newspapers doing what they usually do to grab headlines

That's true .... although "the smoke" you are seeing may be a US covert op ..... and I believe at least one of the "accusers" was reported to have worked for the Swedish government.

Time for another wiki leak perhaps :rolleyes:

Huh ?

Please, please tell me you are kidding ?

To be falsely accused (if that is the case) of a crime which you did not commit, to be arrested, deprived of one's freedom and held without bail (for who knows how long), to be forced to spend who knows how much money to defend oneself, to be forcibly removed from where one is to another locale ... not mind ?

Really ?

He has been arrested because of the Swedish warrant - we do not go around arresting ppl willy nilly - the powers that be must have concluded that there was a just case to be heard in Sweden - for right or wrong it is the law

As someone who was unjustly convicted for a minor traffic matter (which is a criminal offence) - based on perjured testimony of the other party and an officer of the law - I can tell ya I would sure as hell mind ....


The possibility of extradition from Sweden to the US might play into it ..... dunno ....

Agreed, but as you know, this case to be heard is for extradition to Sweden only - any extradiction to the US would be for the Swedish courts to decide upon receiving a warrant from the US.
 

RLENT

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He has been arrested because of the Swedish warrant - we do not go around arresting ppl willy nilly - the powers that be must have concluded that there was a just case to be heard in Sweden - for right or wrong it is the law
Well, for it to be a just case, he would have to be guilty as charged - otherwise, the "case" is inherently unjust ;)

It does, however, appear to be a valid warrant (or at least one which UK authorities have deemed to be valid)

Dunno about you, but in my book there is a huge difference.

Agreed, but as you know, this case to be heard is for extradition to Sweden only - any extradiction to the US would be for the Swedish courts to decide upon receiving a warrant from the US[/B].
That may not be entirely accurate - the possibility of extradition from Sweden to to US (where he could potentially receive the death penalty, if some are to be believed) may figure into it .... like I said I dunno .... but we may well find out ;)
 

EnglishLady

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Well, for it to be a just case, he would have to be guilty as charged - otherwise, the "case" is inherently unjust ;)

Ok lets say then that the warrant was in order :D


It does, however, appear to be a valid warrant (or at least one which UK authorities have deemed to be valid)

Dunno about you, but in my book there is a huge difference.


Agreed - but the authorities had the warrant for some time before they made the arrest - which seems to me like they were dotting i's and crossing t's - to make sure that they were doing everything by the book.
God forbid that our Government should do something now that could made them red-faced :eek: LOL


That may not be entirely accurate - the possibility of extradition from Sweden to to US (where he could potentially receive the death penalty, if some are to be believed) may figure into it .... like I said I dunno .... but we may well find out ;)

I would seriously hope that is not the case, our politicians need to prove to us now that they have at least some backbone and can decide for themselves.

The hearing is today isn't it?
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RLENT

Veteran Expediter
Agreed - but the authorities had the warrant for some time before they made the arrest - which seems to me like they were dotting i's and crossing t's - to make sure that they were doing everything by the book.
Not quite accurate on two counts - there have been multiple warrants I believe.

At least the original warrant that Sweden issued to the Brits had ..... problems .... I believe. :rolleyes:

And they didn't "make the arrest" (as in: apprehending someone who was trying to flee) - he voluntarily surrendered, when he was informed that there was a valid warrant.

God forbid that our Government should do something now that could made them red-faced
Well .. just think how I feel (considering who my government is ... :eek:)

You got an easy "row to hoe" comparatively speaking ..... :D

I would seriously hope that is not the case, our politicians need to prove to us now that they have at least some backbone and can decide for themselves.
It may have to do with EU stuff ... treaties and the like ....

The hearing is today isn't it?
Dunno ....
 

EnglishLady

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Not quite accurate on two counts - there have been multiple warrants I believe.

I believe so too - they were not acceptable by the UK as I understood it.

At least the original warrant that Sweden issued to the Brits had ..... problems .... I believe.

And they didn't "make the arrest" (as in: apprehending someone who was trying to flee) - he voluntarily surrendered, when he was informed that there was a valid warrant.

LOL .... they made the arrest after voluntarily surrendering himself (better?)


Well .. just think how I feel (considering who my government is ... :eek:)

You got an easy "row to hoe" comparatively speaking ..... :D

LOL


It may have to do with EU stuff ... treaties and the like ....


Yes, there is now openness within all of Europe, with all things .... oh joy :mad: (except our currency ROFL :D) :
 

greg334

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The warrant was issued for questioning not charging him as of yet. Under Swedish laws, rape is defined differently than under English/American laws - which is an important point.

I think many judge the actions of one country by the standards of their own. Laws are no different, what is a crime in one country is not a crime in another.
 

AMonger

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Um, didn't we already all know this, like even before the arrest? Once we heard he was wanted on bogus charges, didn't we know what was up?
 
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