Police Recruiting Video

Humble2drive

Expert Expediter
Wow! Why join the marines when you can get comprehensive warfare training at Springdale.

I think my favorite is the full camo bush suits where you can lay undetected in the tall grass waiting for your pray with your tactical high powered rifle and state of the art scope.

Umm, question. What exactly are we hunting? :confused:
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
That will give you the heebee geebees. This is why we need our citizens armed, to be the check and balance to a government that is hell bent on total control

The "camo suits" are called "Ghillie suits" and those just look like normal long range scopes, not particularly "state of the art". The rifles looked like pretty low tech, bolt action rifles. Likely .308, or .338, caliber rifles. They had bipods on them, likely a really good barrel and better triggers than standard production rifles.
 
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Moot

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After seeing that I might start drifting toward the AMonger/Layoutshooter camp.
 

Humble2drive

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That video has provided the motivation for me to order this book:

"Rise of the Warrior Cop, The Militarization of America's Police Forces"

Rise of the Warrior Cop: The Militarization of America's Police Forces: Radley Balko: 9781610392112: Amazon.com: Books

From the book:

The last days of colonialism taught America’s revolutionaries that soldiers in the streets bring conflict and tyranny. As a result, our country has generally worked to keep the military out of law enforcement. But according to investigative reporter Radley Balko, over the last several decades, America’s cops have increasingly come to resemble ground troops. The consequences have been dire: the home is no longer a place of sanctuary, the Fourth Amendment has been gutted, and police today have been conditioned to see the citizens they serve as an other—an enemy.

Today’s armored-up policemen are a far cry from the constables of early America. The unrest of the 1960s brought about the invention of the SWAT unit—which in turn led to the debut of military tactics in the ranks of police officers. Nixon’s War on Drugs, Reagan’s War on Poverty, Clinton’s COPS program, the post–9/11 security state under Bush and Obama: by degrees, each of these innovations expanded and empowered police forces, always at the expense of civil liberties. And these are just four among a slew of reckless programs.

In Rise of the Warrior Cop, Balko shows how politicians’ ill-considered policies and relentless declarations of war against vague enemies like crime, drugs, and terror have blurred the distinction between cop and soldier. His fascinating, frightening narrative shows how over a generation, a creeping battlefield mentality has isolated and alienated American police officers and put them on a collision course with the values of a free society.

Has anyone here read this?
 

layoutshooter

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After seeing that I might start drifting toward the AMonger/Layoutshooter camp.

I take each officer on an individual basis, IF, I have the chance to do so. I trust NO "police" or "law enforcement", department. The higher the level, as in local, to state, to federal, the less trust I have.

Government, is by it's very nature, prone to becoming oppressive. It may start out neutral, which is the best it ever is, but history teaches us to beware of it. The larger, and more centralized it is, the less it can be trusted.

Those who founded this Nation knew that. That is why they wanted a decentralized government, with the primary responsibilities at the most local level possible. Separation of powers was the key.

They set up checks and balances to keep government under control, with the ultimate check and balance being an armed populace. That armed populace was to be the last line of defense for, not if, but when, the government became oppressive and moved towards tyranny.

Beware of ANY level of government who wants to restrict or outlaw the right of the People to defend themselves against ALL enemies, both foreign, OR, domestic.
 

Hyperdrive

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I have been seeing an alarming number of local police departments who have adopted the military fatigue as their uniform. Armored troop carriers with SWAT written on them and masked troops carrying machine guns, busting down doors on the information provided by criminals. Even the Nazi brown shirts didn't wear masks.
There used to be a clear distinction between our military forces and our local police departments before the Feds started providing arms and equipment to them. Communities have lost control of their departments.
 
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davekc

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Have to agree. Probably not far away from the local librarian being armed with a AK-47.:eek:
 

layoutshooter

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Have to agree. Probably not far away from the local librarian being armed with a AK-47.:eek:

I am under the impression, could be wrong, that the federal Dept of ED has a S.W.A.T.

The local librarian would likely have an AR style, if Federal funding is involved, standardization of ammunition. :p
 

layoutshooter

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" Communities have lost control of their departments."

I would take it one step further and say that the People have lost control of their governments.

Federal funding, of local and state law enforcement, it how the feds get around Constitutional distribution of power and force direct federal policing at state and local levels, in effect a "national" para-military police force, outside of ANYTHING allowed by the Constitution.
 

Pilgrim

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Random thoughts about this ridiculous production:


  • Were all these people real Springdale cops or some paid actors? In either case, wonder how much of the taxpayers' money was spent on this production?
  • The most realistic situation portrayed as it relates to Springdale, AR was at the very end when "Barney Fife" sitting at his speed trap asks if the viewer "has what it takes" to chase down one of the local housewives and write a speeding ticket. :rolleyes:
  • From another point of view, there's a reason for the militarization of the police forces across the country - especially those in major metropolitan areas: gangs and the weaponry they possess. Drug money can buy a lot of firepower, and the cops can easily be outgunned by the gangbangers in a major confrontation if they don't have the right equipment. However, I doubt Springdale has the same degree of gang-related problems as LA or Miami.
 

layoutshooter

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There is big money in illegal drugs only because the feds have made them illegal. MMMMMMMMM?
Could that "war on drugs", be waged by the feds, being used for other things?
 

Ragman

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After seeing that I might start drifting toward the AMonger/Layoutshooter camp.
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layoutshooter

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Let's assume that this recruiting video is real and not some elaborate hoax, how could there be anyone who would not find this disconcerting?
 

Turtle

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That video has provided the motivation for me to order this book:

"Rise of the Warrior Cop, The Militarization of America's Police Forces"

Rise of the Warrior Cop: The Militarization of America's Police Forces: Radley Balko: 9781610392112: Amazon.com: Books

Has anyone here read this?
I haven't read the full book yet (I do have the eBook), but I am familiar with Radley Balko. I've read the excerpt of the book Rise of the Warrior Cop at the WSJ, and his stuff at Salon and Huffington Post. His stuff on the militarization of the police has been cited in court cases, by judges, including the US Supreme Court.
 

Turtle

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Random thoughts about this ridiculous production:


  • Were all these people real Springdale cops or some paid actors? In either case, wonder how much of the taxpayers' money was spent on this production?
Hard to say, but all of the equipment they are using certainly came from the taxpayers. The sprawling metropolis of Washington, IA, population 7326, just received a MRAP (Mine Resistance and Ambush Protected) Armored Vehicle. It's 39,000 pounds and 10 feet tall, and is in every way that matters a tank. They cost $412.000 each, and the military is just giving them away. 165 were donated to local police department just in the 4th quarter of last year alone.

  • The most realistic situation portrayed as it relates to Springdale, AR was at the very end when "Barney Fife" sitting at his speed trap asks if the viewer "has what it takes" to chase down one of the local housewives and write a speeding ticket. :rolleyes:
Funny you should put it that way. In addition to Radley Balko, Peter B. Kraska, an Eastern Kentucky University professor, has been researching the issue for decades, and notes the dramatic rise in SWAT teams and other militarizations of the police since 1980. It really got going under the 1033 Program in 1997 when Clinton signed an executive order promoting the utilization of local police forces as the primary recipient of excess military material. But I digress. Kraska published a research piece that was republished in the December 1997 issue of Justice Quarterly. The piece is entitled Militarizing Mayberry and Beyond: Making Sense of American Paramilitary Policing. (http://cjmasters.eku.edu/sites/cjmasters.eku.edu/files/mayberry.pdf).

  • From another point of view, there's a reason for the militarization of the police forces across the country - especially those in major metropolitan areas: gangs and the weaponry they possess. Drug money can buy a lot of firepower, and the cops can easily be outgunned by the gangbangers in a major confrontation if they don't have the right equipment. However, I doubt Springdale has the same degree of gang-related problems as LA or Miami.
Certainly no one wants the police in harms way. And that's the normal justification for this crap. Who would be against protecting police officers? They need to be prepared for any possibility, no matter how remote, I suppose. Domestic terrorism, et. al. The problems come when the police use all these toys, just because they gotta, gotta, gotta, even when the situation doesn't demand it. Like, when Seal Team Six Wannabes, accompanied by the Department of Business and Professional Regulation, and without warrants, raided several barber shops in the Orlando area searching for people "barbering without an active license." I know that sounds like I made it up, or it was a skit on SNL, but it's the truth. 2010 Barbershop Raids - Orlando Sentinel
 

Turtle

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Let's assume that this recruiting video is real and not some elaborate hoax, how could there be anyone who would not find this disconcerting?
Oh, it's not a hoax. That's why I linked to the actual police department instead of a YouTube video link. There are plenty of other recruiting videos out there that, while not quite as bad as Springdale, they do have their moments.

Round Rock, Texas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v63jrssNWo

Stillwater, OK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xgDEF0RM2o

Here's the Web site of the Richland Country (Columbia, SC) Sheriff's Department:
RCSD Tactical Team

Police departments are no longer recruiting police officers, they are recruiting mercenaries, experience preferred.

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Kevin Wilkinson, the police chief of Neenah, Wis., said having a vehicle built for combat would help protect his officers. He's sitting in the back of his MRAP. Neenah is up on between Oshkosh and Appleton, and boasts a population if 25,000 people.

According to Pentagon data, just during the Obama administration alone, police departments have received tens of thousands of machine guns; nearly 200,000 ammunition magazines (no ammunition, however); thousands of pieces of camouflage and night-vision equipment; and hundreds of silencers, armored cars and aircraft.

At last count, there have been a total of 432 MRAPs given out. Totals below are the minimum number of pieces acquired since 2006 in a selection of categories.

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That will give you the heebee geebees. This is why we need our citizens armed, to be the check and balance to a government that is hell bent on total control

That's exactly right.

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

The citizenry at large should have at its disposal the same exact weaponry to defend themselves that the state has to use on its citizenry.
 
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