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...and it is offered to the driver that just got done with the 1100 miler because he got on that board before you did. By tomorrow he has 1800 miles in for 2 days running and you have 300 miles in for 4 days. Guess you should have asked for a first out. ( see other post. )
You delivered a 700 mile load out to BFE, after delivery you sat 2 days waiting on another load which never came so you decide to go to another board, lets say Memphis and D/H 250 miles to get there. Another driver, let's call him me, delivers a 90 mile load in Memphis from Jackson, but I arrived 8 hours before you did. Another load comes up coming out of Memphis going 700 miles. Who gets that load, you or me?
I say me.
So what if another driver has 1800 miles in 2 days and you have 300 miles in 4 days? You're mad 'cause another driver "one upped" you or something? Should Panther divide all miles between all trucks equally? That's about as silly as getting mad 'cause another driver drove the meat out of a load and you get offered the scraps. What about when you drive the meat out of a load and someone else gets scraps, or what about when you get 1800 miles in 2 days and someone else gets 300 in 4 days?
Well, it kind of is different. The first out was given to get them to take the load to a place they knew they'd have a hard time getting anything out of. I've gotten first outs in that same situation, and I've had people jump me for the same exact scenario. It's hard to get mad at that.Turtle says: If I take a short 90 mile run to Memphis, to get to a better location, I shouldn't be penalized just because someone chose to sit for 2 days, 250 miles away, completely off the Memphis board, and then decided to come in and jump ahead of me.
And how would that be different then say someone delivering in canton,ms. getting a first out then d/h up to memphis and jumping in front of you. It's not,...
That's very true. Then again, if he delivered before me and is driving up there for 3 hours while I've been sitting, he'll jump me, even though I honestly don't consider driving time as dwell time.[It's not,] but with dwell time if he delivered after you, you would be offered the load first.
You're assuming they'd return the 500 miles back. They wouldn't. They'd drop in Princeton, IN at 0700 on Friday morning and head home to Flint for the weekend. Then come back out Monday noon with their 3 days of dwell time in tow.And as far as someone d/h 1000 miles total just to go home and return, you won't have to worry about them for long.
Yeah, first, they have to get these boards straightened out, get them defined and organized in a manner that makes sense. The boundaries should be well defined and everyone should know precisely where they are.BTW do you have any suggestions for trying to make it as fair as possible out here?
You're assuming they'd return the 500 miles back. They wouldn't. They'd drop in Princeton, IN at 0700 on Friday morning and head home to Flint for the weekend. Then come back out Monday noon with their 3 days of dwell time in tow.
Fr8 Shaker;
As for myself I wouldn't drop at 7 a.m. and d/h to flint and if I did I would wait until the late afternoon anyway depending on board position and if I didn't go OOS or turn down any loads in the meantime the yes I'd have dwell time but I would also stay where I was at, being I'm more comfortable at home then sitting in a parking lot waiting on a load. And sometimes it takes quite a while to get out of flint.
Turtle;
Yeah, first, they have to get these boards straightened out, get them defined and organized in a manner that makes sense. The boundaries should be well defined and everyone should know precisely where they are.
Then, First Outs should be given for a mini, a dry run, being pulled from a load due for any reason out of your control (being held up at the shipper, consignee, the border, or some other unforeseen delay), for being forced to swap a load (cargo van) because someone in Dispatch can't use common sense and instead can't get 47 MPH out of their head and they think you don't have time to take a 5 hour break even though you do. I can't think of any other reasons for a First Out. A First Out should be given as a reward for a mini or for something else that happens that otherwise interferes with your earning potential.
Once given a First Out, you keep it until you accept the next load and then POD out with that load, unless you change your status to OOS. You can turn down as many loads as you like until you get one that suits you. Period.
With the boards properly defined in a manner that makes sense, and with the First Out BS out of the way, then the FIFO of the board will essentially be the same as dwell time, as people won't have to change boards very often at all. If they choose to change boards, they take their chances, but there should be no ambiguity as to where the board boundaries are (I cannot stress that enough). If they take a load that delivers in BFE they take their chances, and they should have negotiated a price that makes it worth taking a load to BFE and having to deadhead back to be at the bottom of a board.
Standard, common sense rules about expediting would still apply, like, board position notwithstanding, you could be jumped for a time-critical pickup for someone who is closer to the freight, or a Sprinter could jump an E-350 for tall freight, or an E-350 could jump a Sprinter because of heavy freight. And, all vans could be jumped because they gotta keep those straight truck teams rollin' and happy.
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